Thanks for the info. I didnt ralize it was spotwelded in. Explains why all the beating and pushing I did didn't budge the thing. I think I will just leave it in and do what I need to do that way. Thanks for the info on the instrument cluster as well. I tried to pull it out and had a lot of trouble with it too. It is very helpful to know whats holding you up, so you dont tear something up in the process.