yes, the smaller is 1"x3.25" [happen to have one laying on the desk grin ] it's unpainted stainless and held to the pillar with 2 small spot welds, you might see evidence of them if the tag is gone - it only has the vin#, the other is the data plate with GVW and such .... without the vin tag there's no way to positively ID the truck - but if it's on a different chassis anyway, call it whatever grill you put in it wink

Bill


Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics