Thanks Bartamos. I've beeen thinking about solid windows. I thought it would be real cool if you could hingr them the newer minivans and or expiditions. Do you have AC? I was wondering about it getting too hot for the youngins', your thoughts please. I'll check out those sites in the mean time. Your GMC is very simila too my chevy burb. I too have a 454 and a newer running gear. My plan is to do a rat rod job on it with the little distinct custom stuff down to the flat paint job. I'm thinking of doing a very light aqua and white combo fromHot Rod Flatz paints. Anyways, Thanks Jocko