I always assumed the truck had papers. I had never really asked my dad about the papers till he actually gave it to me last week. Turns out all the guy gave him was a bill of sale and that vin plate. And the bill of sale was blank where it asked for the vin. Dad said the guy was in his 60's and couldnt read the number on the plate so just left it up to him to fill out. And that old guy had never registered it under his name and he owned it for about 12 years and never did anything to it but let it sit. But my dad never registered it. I called and ran the vin with the dmv and told me it must have not been registered in the last 10 years because it wasnt in their system. My uncle recommended me a title service that he's used in the past because he said getting a ca title would be a hassle and a long process. so i already sent in that paper work and am waiting on my title. Thats about the whole story on that truck. And as to Jeff, well the truck isnt in picture condition but i'll take some for you guys smile thanks alot for the help everyone i'll keep you guys posted on my paper work process just in case someone else is in the same boat and it might help.