just got my new, stock, exhast plumbed and installed on my '61. man, what a difference. that thing purrs like a kitten now, gone are the days of roaring around like a tractor on the loose. that little 235 idles like glass and now sounds like a good vehicle again. thanks for the posts relating to my exhaust questions. i am so happy with this little truck, i am gonna have to post pictures soon so you guys can have a look. doesn't look much better but i am almost done fixing mechanical stuff, and then the body! thanks again.