The drums came off easier than I thought. I took out the screws and cleaned the joint around the hub with a wire brush. A little wd 40 ... A little hammering on the face of the drun with a metal slug around the hub and the studs.
I disconnected and lubed the park brake cables with wd forty to be sure they were completely disengaged.
I took 2 old tire irons I have that are bent in a curl af the very tip (1/8 inch) They fit in between the drum and backing plate. The curl hooked in nicely. 2 pulls than the drum cam free. The other side went the same.
Thank for the help everyone.
I now have a wheel bearing questuion but will start another string.
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