Hmmm, I guess it's been longer than I thought. A lot of new members, I walked away from advising after taking a lot of flak and BS from people who aren't here anymore. If you have a look at my website it explains what these are from and how easy it is to replace your old AD gauges with them. That picture is of course reverse positioning and was corrected when I finished them up. Fatfenders Website and then click on "The Toad" near the bottom of the page.