sixpax ; I could not stand it ,I ordered the Jeep shifter. It was the first one I saw that I thought I could make work . The good news is I ddid make it work , and it works better than I ever thought it might. It did take a lot of modifacation to make it work , I wen't from around 9" of shiftter travel to less than 4".I wish I would have kown about the S-10 model you told me about.