Nothcoast, I like your way of thinking. I'm not one to give up too easy. Being the "go for" girl, I am the one that is better than my "boss" at finding things he usually can't. He has some great people at some of the auto parts stores being he sometimes spends a fortune in there on other people's vehicles. My son is the internet person. He's started messing with them in his high school days. He's one of those types that will take something apart just to see how it works.