J Lucas One other detail...don't kill it mid-spread !! LOL All spreadermen learn this,keep a smaller size scoop shovel on board. To do the gravel just in the tracks trick you can put a wood 6x6 at the center of your full width tail gate. Lot of tricks in the spreadermans bag,you''ll soon be one,bring us back a report I detected you saw the trouble burn into it. Only thing more fun...winch truck !!