John Milliman It amazes me how the young learn from the old,my driveline teacher was a powerful hack but he sure got results. We done it all off of creepers .Ed could gut-out and overhaul a 235 in a full day,when he was "running around",would rod his 51 tilla dipper tore loose,immediately shut it off -pull it home. He used to say Chevrolett pull er home let er set !! He knew how to cheat on those 2 rods you can change from below,by the weekend would be ready to go again !! Good days of learning !!!