Thanks Wrenchbender, I moved them both back as much as I can it seems. I have a scrap wheel cylinder so I know which way to turn back the brake adjusters, one up and the other down, plus the drum spins easily now. Still no budge sadly. I think Jerry's way is the way I have to go next, maybe rusted on the axle some, and I've pried on twice with big screwdrivers against the backing plate. I might try with a puller if I can borrow it from a pro mechanic friend (sometimes will loan pals tools). If not pullers look like they are over $200. If I cant borrow a puller, will have to pull the entire axle. Will follow, thanks to both of you.
-Clem
