Bill I wish you would post them (again) for all to see. I hate to admit it but I to am running around with out belts. I do have belts in the truck but I just stuffed them down the seat so I could pass inspection. The big problem here is mounting points the belt should pull straight and not be mounted to the seat frame. if you mount them to the floor pan it needs to make a big zig zag and I'm not talking rolling papers. When I did the floors last winter I fixed the doors so they dont fly open at random or the slightest aplication of the brakes, turns, backing up ond so on. I feel this is a big safety plus. Seat belts that were some how bolted down would realy be great. Thanks Ray