those chem students should study up on acetic acid, which is all vinegar is - any concentration of 5% acetic acid will be about pH 2.5-3 .... normal commercial pickling vinegar is 7%, available at most stores around here, and what I've been using in electroplating experiments wink horticultural vinegar [actually up to 20%] is probably not common at most garden stores, but is a specialty "organic grower approved" weed killer

look at cider vinegar that sells for $4 a gallon, and at Wallys place, there are numerous 'generic' cider vinegars that are white vinegar with "approved" additives

water and washing soda are as cheap or cheaper than vinegar and with the addition of minimal electric current do the job better, electrolysis takes off the rust without affecting the underlying metal [as does phosphoric acid], and a similar acting organic acid would be tannic acid, widely used in artifact conservation

Bill


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"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
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