Unrestored with patina is about the same for a unrestored suburban of the same year. People ask for more, but they sit for a long time.One of the postings you posted originally sold for around $18,000 and the guy went to Barrertt Jackson and got around $42,000. I sold one last year for $4500 and now the guy is asking $16,000, it's still the same rust bucket that I sold him with a few more trinkets and running. i doubt that he will get the money unless someone from out of state buys ist without seeing it up close.