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#555546 - Tue Jul 14 2009 02:10 PM 1950 4X4 conversion...  
Scott's50  Offline
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Posts: 187
Lexington, SC
Ok, I've been reading back through all the posts I can find on this topic and still have an unanswered question or twelve. First off I have 1950 1/2 ton that is complete with just the usual rust in the corners etc. There is a local 194? Dodge sitting on a 197? SWB Chevy frame. I talked to the guy at a gas station and he said it was a real Bear to get the sheet metal lined up.
I want to go the 4x4 route but want to save as many of the headaches as possible. The idea I've been tossing around, and haven't seen addressed here, is putting a late model 4x4 front axle in place of the stock 1950 axle,kinda like the NAPCO conversion back in the day.
Any suggestions about where to look for a donor axle that is approx. the right width? Spring perches in the right place would be a great plus. Also how to relocate the front spring hangers so the springs will be parallel like a late model chevy, instead of toed in as on the stock axle? After some crawling and looking I'm thinking of using the spring hangers from the rear of a 3/4 ton to move the spings outside the frame for the forwardmost set of spring hangers on the front. I think that would just about get them parallel.
Of course all this assumes the stock frame is strong enough, I don't plan on thrashing the 4x4 part of it, but I do farm for a living so the occasional plowed field or light trailer pulling will be in the plans. Sorry for the long post and thanks,
Scott


1947, 1950, & 1952 Chevrolet 1/2 ton
1952 GMC 450 series Cab Over Engine
1946 Chevrolet 2 Ton


#555564 - Tue Jul 14 2009 03:15 PM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: Scott's50]  
FriedGreenTmater  Offline
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colorado
I cheated, I just dropped my 53 on top of a 73 Suburban frame. I'm putting it back together now and am not having any issues with alignment yet.
there are some on here that have done what you are thinking and I'm sure they will speak up soon.


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#555725 - Wed Jul 15 2009 02:11 AM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: FriedGreenTmater]  
48bigtrucks  Offline
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Center Point, Iowa
The S10 conversion is popular. There's a company that sells a kit to do just that,
Scott


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2 1948 1.5-ton Loadmasters
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1 1955.1 Chevy 6500
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#555729 - Wed Jul 15 2009 02:22 AM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: Scott's50]  
Scott's50  Offline
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Lexington, SC
53monster - I looked at your pics, way cool man. There may be something to that approach. How did you attach the core support? Did you have to modify the bed depth? Like I said I plan on using the truck around our farm and the '73 running gear should work great in that aspect.

Last edited by Scott's50; Wed Jul 15 2009 02:24 AM.

1947, 1950, & 1952 Chevrolet 1/2 ton
1952 GMC 450 series Cab Over Engine
1946 Chevrolet 2 Ton

#555760 - Wed Jul 15 2009 04:31 AM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: Scott's50]  
chevoldsmoyota  Offline
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Preston, Idaho USA
Scott,

There is a guy around here who ditched his 1959 running gear, took a '70s - '80s 4x4 Chevy truck frame, lowered the 1950 frame over the top, scribed the two frames and cut them, then welded both frames together (one on top of the other). Looks sharp and he got the look of a lift without having to screw up the factory suspension geometry of the "new" frame. I don't know about hooking up the steering, and I'm sure the brake lines would have had to be extended/modified, but I think this is the way I'm going to do my '36. . .if I ever get around to it.

Craig


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#555833 - Wed Jul 15 2009 03:05 PM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: Scott's50]  
FriedGreenTmater  Offline
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the core support is sitting on brackets that I welded to the suburban frame. I put the truck all together before any paint work to make sure everything was going to work. The bed will set on the 53 frame in the front and blocks with about 1/2" extra thickness in the back. I had to extend the clutch rod about 7" for my 73 running gear application, but if you want to run the original six i don't know what mods you may have to make if any.


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1953 Chevrolet 3600
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#555990 - Thu Jul 16 2009 02:55 AM Re: 1950 4X4 conversion... [Re: FriedGreenTmater]  
Scott's50  Offline
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Lexington, SC
Craig and 53monster,
Thanks for the info. That really gives me something to noodle over. The "frame melding" idea really has some merit. I've been looking for a sutable donor axle to swap into the stock frame and am drawing a blank. I really don't want to cut down an axle to fit. So far the closest thing looks like an '81-86 CJ-7, but the spring perches are still 1" too wide, though the overall width looks workable. I don't know which way I'll go yet. But, not having to worry about steering geometry is very attractive.


1947, 1950, & 1952 Chevrolet 1/2 ton
1952 GMC 450 series Cab Over Engine
1946 Chevrolet 2 Ton


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