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#136163 - Sun Nov 26 2006 10:26 PM 250 vs 350 or 292  
lms1943  Offline
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Joined: Oct 2006
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San Antonio, TX
I am asking for some free advice from the members.....
I want to replace the 235 in my '58 pickup. I'm torn between a 292 or 350 small block. Jinda want to stay with a 6 to be different. A friend has a complete 25 that he will give me. He thinks that a strong rebuild on it and a 3 angle valve job on my 848 head will be about as good and much less costley then buying a 292 and rebuilding it. I have a ZZ4 crate motor in the street rod so I know what it can do....and cost.
Thanks in advance



#136164 - Sun Nov 26 2006 11:03 PM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
bigbadswingdaddy  Offline
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san francisco
if you want to be different... stay with a 6 banger.


#136165 - Mon Nov 27 2006 12:06 AM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
Wrenchbender Ret.  Offline
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Lenexa Ks.
If you are going to drive it much go with the V-8. It was an option in there & looks right at home. They even handle better with a V-8. It weighs less & the weight is further back so it steers easier & drives better. Early V-8,s had stovebolts too.


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#136166 - Wed Nov 29 2006 01:45 PM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
jhaa_lives  Offline
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 285
St. Louis Area Missouri
As much as I personally like the straight 6, the SBC 350 V8 is a good engine. The 350 parts will be cheaper and easier to find. The engine will be easier to tune (as more people have knowledge on how to tune it).

That being said, straight engines (with multiples of 3 cylinders... i.e. 3, 6, 9, 12, etc..) are inherently balanced engines. V8's are NOT. There is a reason you see them on BIG STRONG tractors, trucks, etc... and not the bent engine counterpart.

I'm currently looking for a 292 to tweak a little and put in my 58. Should not be too difficult to get 300 ft/lb, reliable torque at 3500 rpm. Racers want to talk about HP, but when you want to get work done talk about torque.

Know what kind of engine BMW just spent years of time developing to put in there new HOT sedan... a straight 6. Wonder why? Because they are good engineers, not good ole boy racers.


#136167 - Wed Nov 29 2006 02:49 PM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
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Minnehaha County, South Dakota
If the six isn't a problem for you why not fix it? If I were going to swap, I would go straight to the small block myself, because of the ease and expense.


#136168 - Tue Dec 05 2006 01:00 AM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
Hot Rod Dad  Offline
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Taos, NM
The 292 would be a cool engine if you score one. I found websites that sell rebuilt 292's for $1200 bucks. Of course, that's a stock rebuild.

350's run so incredibly well and offer the best bang for the buck. But you lose that original look.

In a car show about a year ago, I entered my truck along with several really pristine AD trucks. But mine was the only one with the stovebolt engine. Mine was far from perfect, but it won the people's choice award, despite how beautiful the V8 AD trucks were.

From that, I draw the conclusion that most people prefer the old-fashioned look of the Stovebolt engine.

The 292 would give you that. But I agree with the above, if you plan on driving it a lot or using it for work, the 350 might be the more practical approach.

Bottom line, it's your truck, and your choice.
I'd advise going to a good car show that might have a few different AD trucks on display.


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#136169 - Tue Dec 05 2006 01:05 AM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
Hot Rod Dad  Offline
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Taos, NM
Here's the link for the 292 crate engines:

http://www.usdieselparts.com/category.cfm?Category=1400&CFID=818845&CFTOKEN=780

And here's another one:

http://www.gmplace.com/engine/gmcgmplacegmc_292lb_6.html

Looks like the prices vary. But for about a grand, that's a nice deal.


52 GMC 3/4 ton pickup
68 Big Block Vette
68 455 Firebird

#136170 - Tue Dec 05 2006 01:24 AM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
Trucked Up  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 61
Pikeville, Ky.
Hey guys I also have got intrest in the 292. Just bought two salvage engines complete. Don't know much about them but in conversations with Tom Langdon of Langdons stovebolt its not wise to buy a engine if you don't have the brackets to go on it.

I started to buy long block re-man and I could not find any hardware to complete.....Just a thought.


#136171 - Tue Dec 05 2006 03:41 AM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
packhorse32  Offline
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Fort Leonard Wood, Mo.
Do the 350. The 6 is OK, but not as a daily driver. Personally i cant see driving a 216 because i would blow it up from pushing it too hard-and then what good is it to anyone? If i can i am going to drive the stovebolt every day and never buy a new truck or car again-therefore it needs to be able to be taken on open freeways and open roads. My truck(s) are not original anyhoo and never will be so a v-6 or a small 8 is appropriate.
That vortech v-6 in the chevy trailblazer LTZ is impressive to say the least. has the power of a 350 and drives like it never gets wore down. We are approaching 100,000 miles on it and it hasnt slowed yet-hauls a load too. Would be cool to score one of those and put em in a stovebolt...


#136172 - Tue Dec 05 2006 11:41 PM Re: 250 vs 350 or 292  
carolines truck  Offline
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nor cal
The 250's can rev higher than the 292's.
the 292's have more torque.

i put a 292 in my 3104
got it at the junk yard for $600 and it was completely rebuilt w/ 600 miles... out of a wrecked 67 truck

we love it
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