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Posted By: fclaridge 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 08:31 AM
Hi guys, well it’s been quite a while since I’ve been here. Life got in the way and had to take care of some things. Looks like I’ll be back working on my bolt a bit more. I’m excited. I did finally get my 22.5” wheels and low pro tires on my bus. I’m really lovin the look and feeling more motivation to do more. I think getting the front axle spindles swapped for disc brakes is next. Anyway here are pics of my progress.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/...1-4CC7-8019-274BBC69C96B_zpsxdcznboi.jpg
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Posted By: 78buckshot Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 10:49 AM
I envy your wheels, are they original bolt pattern?
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 04:17 PM
No, I used adapters that run the small 10 bolt pattern on the inner circle and the semi truck pattern on the outer circle. Here are some pictures of the set up.
https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...9-4975-81E1-31A128751F5E_zpsg6dip0v4.jpg
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https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...F-41ED-B6F7-12662011D901_zpselpoa34y.jpg
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Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 08:11 PM
where are the adapters from ?
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 08:26 PM
There are several places that make them, but I got mine from a guy in Humble, TX. His name is Ernesto Perez and his business is E.T Machinery. Here is his Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate...dapters-and-Accessories-577778099328282/
Posted By: EdPruss Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sat Apr 04 2020 11:43 PM
Are they steel or Al?

Ed
Posted By: Tony292 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sun Apr 05 2020 12:59 AM
Very nice!!
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sun Apr 05 2020 01:45 AM
The wheels are aluminum and the adapters are all steel. Very heavy duty. Here are the pics of the adapters not installed.

https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...2-4212-909E-AA8172BF8BD3_zpsn6j2eo2l.jpg
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https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...8-42D2-AD23-DC1EC7C75970_zpspflhulyh.jpg

And the wheels are 22.5" Alcoa Aluminum semi wheels. They have been machined where the tire bead sits to 22" to accommodate a 22" tire. My tire size is 285/45/22. Here's a picture of the wheels machined.
https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...6-4849-8F8A-DCF5920C4FC0_zpsvuiu5fgp.jpg

And a close up of the tire on the wheel.
https://i107.photobucket.com/albums...C-4D63-9A95-CC8177ABD127_zpsg4fr5prf.jpg
Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sun Apr 05 2020 10:29 PM
Very nice thanks! I am gonna have to start looking for some old semi wheels for me loadmaster.
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Sun Apr 05 2020 10:34 PM
Just keep in mind that you have to use aluminum wheels if you want to machine them down for 22” tires. Steel wheels don’t have enough material to allow you to do that. You can also buy 22” wheels that can be drilled to your bolt pattern as well.
Posted By: EdPruss Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 01:15 AM
Why not keep them 22.5?

Ed
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 02:11 AM
The tires are 22”. So the area where the bead sits needs to be machined down for the tire bead to seat properly.
Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by fclaridge
Just keep in mind that you have to use aluminum wheels if you want to machine them down for 22” tires. Steel wheels don’t have enough material to allow you to do that. You can also buy 22” wheels that can be drilled to your bolt pattern as well.


I think I would be ok running the 22.5 on some steel or al wheels gonna paint/powder-coat black either way. Unless their would be a huge difference in cost of the tires would be going on a 1.5 ton dually.
Posted By: Mike B Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Jacket4256
I think I would be ok running the 22.5 on some steel or al wheels gonna paint/powder-coat black either way. Unless their would be a huge difference in cost of the tires would be going on a 1.5 ton dually.

What year is your 1-1/2 ton truck?

Note, there is a BIG difference between a 22" and a 22.5" tire. The 22" are a light duty truck/suv 4-ply tire, the 22.5" are a BIG truck tire.

Mike B smile
Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 04:14 PM
1947 Loadmaster, so I would assume that the 22.5 would be where I needed to be.
Posted By: 35mike Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 08:37 PM
I think the issue with 22.5 tires is that the current availability of sizes does not include anything that is small enough for these old trucks. There are several threads here discussing this issue.

Mike
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 08:55 PM
But if you get modern 22.5 wheels with adapters to put them on your truck, you can get a low profile 22.5 and be in good shape. And low profile tires meaning a 235/80/22.5 or something like that.
Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 09:24 PM
Like fclaridge said from the little research that I have started to do on this seems like you can but 22.5 steel or aluminum wheels and buy adapters from ET machinery and run the 235/80 or 245/75 22.5 on the big trucks, I have by no means done this but something that I was going to look into doing to get away from split wheels. I think I will have a hard time finding someone to work on them. Also the tubeless 22.5 may turn out cheaper in the long run.
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Mon Apr 06 2020 09:46 PM
It's totally doable and pretty easy if you keep the wheels and tires both 22.5". The adapters are easy to install and made to order. They can be purchased from numerous places, but ET is the place I got mine. They run $1200 for a full set with all lugnuts for the big circle included. They are pretty heavy duty and weigh about 35lbs per adapter. They are very stout.
You simply bolt them to the truck with the inner track and then bolt your wheel to the outer track and install whatever lugnut and hub covers you choose to install, if any. The only reason I went the route I did is that I wanted a hot rod look for my bus with the low profile tires and the commercial tires were too tall for what I wanted to do.
Posted By: Possum Re: 22.5s on my bus - Tue Apr 07 2020 05:33 PM
Very cool! Gonna lower it a bit or keep it the current ride height?
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Wed Apr 08 2020 04:17 AM
A few more steps down the road I'll notch the frame and put in air bags and it will let me go down lower. I'd like to go 3-4 more inches. And the air bags will give me a much softer ride too.
Posted By: Jacket4256 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Thu Apr 09 2020 01:46 PM
I have been calling around trying to find someone that can replace tires for when the time comes for my 47, seems like I may be out of luck. Fclaridge what is your adapter pattern is it just custom to what you wanted or did they use something that is existing. I noticed the stock lugs are 5 bolt so is it a 5-10 lug conversion that you are using, just kinda trying to wrap my head around all of this.

Seems that there is not a direct replacement wheel out there for these trucks so might as well go with the 22.5 wheels and radial tires.
Posted By: fclaridge Re: 22.5s on my bus - Thu Apr 09 2020 03:36 PM
My bolt pattern is the 10 on 7.25 with a 5.25 bore. It is the 5-10 lug set up. That bolt pattern is also used in some modern trucks, but the adapters are made to order and I am sure yours could be made too. What is your pattern? I could ask the guy that made mine and see what he says. Then from there just get modern semi truck 22.5s and put on some 22.5 tires and bolt it on your truck.
Posted By: Mike B Re: 22.5s on my bus - Thu Apr 09 2020 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Jacket4256
I have been calling around trying to find someone that can replace tires for when the time comes for my 47, seems like I may be out of luck.

Your local car/light truck tire shop will not work, you need to call the big rig truck tire shop, they will work on multi piece rims as long as they are not the Firestone RH-5's...

You may also need to order your tires from Nebraska Tire, Chicago Tire or Miller Tire, as not to many shops stock our small size truck tires

Mike B smile
Posted By: Tony292 Re: 22.5s on my bus - Thu Dec 24 2020 12:32 AM
I’m very interested in these adaptors, can you tell me the manufacturer? Mine would be the same with one exception, a 4.75 center.
Posted By: EdPruss Re: 22.5s on my bus - Thu Dec 24 2020 03:14 AM
Just make a slim adapter to go from 4.75” to 5.25”.

Ed
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