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Posted By: Possum 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Wed Jul 25 2018 07:59 PM
Here's my '58 3800 that has the 9 foot bed option on it. I bought it a few months ago in hopes of breathing some life back into it!

From what I can tell, it had a rough life as a farm truck. Bad rust, bondo, mis-matched parts, and a few accidents here and there. The hood and passenger side fender are off a '59 truck, and I think the cab is not original as well. The 235 might be toast, oil smells kinda burnt...

I've dissembled most of the truck and picked up a few parts for it already. I have a couple engine choices in mind for it, but that'll be down the road. Thinking about lowering it just a bit too, like flip the rear axle and put a drop axle up front.

The pics here show how it looked before disassembly, and its current state.

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Posted By: fourspeedwagon Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Tue Jul 31 2018 01:14 AM
Like the loooong boxes- not too sure myself about lowering a heavy duty truck, but what you do isn’t up to me.
What are you thinking for the drivetrain?
Have fun.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Wed Aug 01 2018 03:16 PM
I'm on the fence about lowering the truck, it won't be too much of a drop if I do so. I plan on using the truck as a truck once its running and driving and legal.

As for the drivetrain, I'm not sure yet, currently doing some research to see what other rear ends could fit.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Aug 16 2018 07:27 PM
Update on the truck:

A few weeks back I scored a cab, front clip, 2 doors, and 2 hoods on Craigslist for a great price! https://photos.app.goo.gl/TnKAah2kDfMjMhtA8
The original cab is far too rusty to repair and would be too costly for me. The 'new' cab is in better condition, but still will need a bit of work.

Also my dad picked up a supposedly 383 stroker for real cheap from one of his friends. We'll have to open it up and see how it is in the inside. I'd like to put it in the truck, but not quite sure yet.

Now, as for the rear end. The truck still has the factory 8 lug 5.14 ratio axle. How stout is the factory axle? Would a 14 bolt be a good swap for a Taskforce era truck? I still would like to run the SM420 trans for the time being.

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Posted By: Dhalldens1960 Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Aug 16 2018 11:54 PM
Gotta love them trucks. Looking forward to seeing pics as it comes along.
Posted By: Grigg Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Fri Aug 17 2018 01:51 PM
I bet the 14 bolt is still a good swap, check the original axle width and compare with info in the 14 bolt sticky thread.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Fri Aug 17 2018 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by Grigg
I bet the 14 bolt is still a good swap, check the original axle width and compare with info in the 14 bolt sticky thread.


Thanks Grigg! I've read though that thread a few times now to figure out what I need to search for.
The spring perches on the original axle measure a little over 40". The width for the original axle is very similar to a 14 bolt out of a C&C, its just a tad wider.

And it hit me yesterday, I know of a salvage yard with a mid-70s Chevy towtruck that might have one under it. Hopefully the truck is still there, was 2 months ago when I saw it.
Posted By: Grigg Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Sat Aug 18 2018 02:24 AM
Might check condition of the spindles, a heavily used axle may have spun races on the spindles.
I’ve bought several axles with various more or less non repairable issues before finding a real nice one.

RV’s can have them too, and frequently don’t see very many miles.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Wed Oct 10 2018 06:06 PM
Update!

Slowly but surely, I'm making progress. Cab along with the engine/tranny is ready to come off the frame, then the fun job of scrapping and chiseling the decades of grease and oil off the frame. Doors are off with the glass and internals removed to be saved for the other doors I plan on using. https://beta-static.photobucket.com...idth=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds

Also I scored a passenger side emblem at a flea market! Been hunting for one of these grin
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Posted By: John Milliman Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Oct 11 2018 11:19 AM
Thanks for the update! Cool project. May we assume that you've scrapped the idea about lowering it??
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Oct 11 2018 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by John Milliman
Thanks for the update! Cool project. May we assume that you've scrapped the idea about lowering it??

There's a good chance of that, it was just a thought. Still have looooots of things to do on the truck before I consider it.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Dec 20 2018 07:00 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates here, had some laptop issues computer_punch

I haven't really done anything to the truck, still needing to remove the cab and engine...

But I did snag a couple original 3/4-1 ton hubcaps off ebay for a really good price, they're in great condition too! https://photos.app.goo.gl/hKrQPv59KAJVM1dM7
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Mon Dec 31 2018 09:08 PM
I realized that I completely forgot to post this...


The black cab I plan on using (which I posted earlier), someone already put in new outer cab corners and steps on it, though they need a little touching up with the welder. The cab does have some rust on it, but its nothing major, until I started looking over the back of it...
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Somebody had welded a plate over a rust spot and then caked bondo over that along with another rust spot next to the plate. I honestly almost didn't notice it at first except for a little rough spot where the rust was eating through the bondo.

So I proceeded to hack it out. What made it a bit difficult was this happened to be right where the rear cab mounting bracket is, which also had some rust. Well I got that bracket out in one piece and welded and fixed it up to reuse it.
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Then I cut out the same piece from the old cab to fill in the spot. First time drilling spot welds went so-so, considering I ended up drilling right through the piece...
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Weld it up!
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And hit it with some spray can primer!
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Not bad for my first attempt at major rust repair! nanner


This cab will need some floor work, but I'll mess with that later...

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Posted By: Justhorsenround Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Mon Dec 31 2018 09:23 PM
Possum, please look into another alternative for hosting photos. Many of our members cannot see Photobucket postings. Thanks
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Thu Jan 03 2019 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Justhorsenround
Possum, please look into another alternative for hosting photos. Many of our members cannot see Photobucket postings. Thanks

Alright I'll look into it.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Fri Jan 04 2019 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Justhorsenround
Possum, please look into another alternative for hosting photos. Many of our members cannot see Photobucket postings. Thanks

So I decided test something. I know Internet Explorer does not support Photobucket, though when I click the links here while on Internet Explorer the pictures show without any issue.

Is there anyone viewing this thread who can't get the pictures to show?
Posted By: Justhorsenround Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Fri Jan 04 2019 06:29 PM
Are you referring to the PB photos in your original post or did you try something else? I can view your originals which is unusual. I usually can’t see PB pictures without jumping through a bunch of hoops.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Fri Jan 04 2019 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Justhorsenround
Are you referring to the PB photos in your original post or did you try something else? I can view your originals which is unusual. I usually can’t see PB pictures without jumping through a bunch of hoops.

Yes I'm referring to the PB photos in the original post. I have it where the link takes you straight to the picture without taking you to my PB Library, maybe thats why you're able to view it smile
Posted By: Turbo4whl Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Sat Apr 06 2019 03:39 AM
Originally Posted by Possum

So I decided test something. I know Internet Explorer does not support Photobucket, though when I click the links here while on Internet Explorer the pictures show without any issue.



Yes, I also can see your pictures. I am using Google Chrome. I had been using Explorer and updated it a few times, but on my last update I must have screwed up and this computer went back to the original version. Some people don't like Chrome because it tracks where you have been.

With Chrome I can at least see your pictures and I want to tell you, with your first attempt at rust repair, it looks great!

I just bought a 1956 3800. Maybe I should have bought a new computer instead.... no I bought another truck.
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Tue Apr 23 2019 08:52 PM
Thanks Wayne! I would've gotten the truck too grin


And I have to confess something I've been holding in since January. Me and my dad borrowed my uncle's tractor to move some hay, his tractor has a loader on it where ours does not, so we used it to lift the cab and engine off the frame and set it aside. Come to find out, both frame rails are bent...

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Like I said, I've been reluctant to post this for the past 3 months because I was pondering on what to do. I plan on swinging by a local body shop that can do frame straightening and see what they can do for me.
I'm still gathering parts and doing other work on the truck, but once I get over this hurdle it should be downhill from there. *knocks on wood*

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Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Tue Sep 03 2019 06:45 PM
A well overdue update!

For the past few months I've been working on and off this truck, mostly repairing the rust on the cab. It seemed to have a growing theme of "Bondo over rust". Both outer corners had been replaced previously though were poorly welded in and had bondo slathered over them. I removed all the bondo and touched up the welds to my satisfaction.
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As for the floor, I hacked out the section with the galvanized welded over and bought a new floor piece(even though when the piece arrived it wasn't exactly what I ordered, but I made it work) and proceeded to cut it to the right dimensions.
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But before I could burn the new floor in, I needed to cut out a spot next to the hinge pocket that had rusted through and once again was hidden by bondo(I welded in that hole in the cab brace as well) Fabbed up a replacement panel from the old floor and put that in to appear factory.
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Then it was finally time for the floor to be put in! Luckily I still have the old section of floor to fill in the hole above the new floor.
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So once the passenger side gets finished up, its off to the driver's. Thankfully its nowhere near as bad!
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 1-ton Project Truck - Tue Sep 03 2019 06:48 PM
Forgot to mention in the previous post. The local body shop said they could straighten out the frame for a few hundred bucks! They'll just have to remove 2 of the cross members to do so. I'm gonna go for it grin
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Tue Oct 15 2019 05:53 PM
Facebook Marketplace score! Its a rust-free 9' bed sitting on a late 80s(?) frame cut down into a trailer. Mainly got it for the bed itself but it has other goodies as well like new LED lights, 10k lb. ball hitch, an 8 lug 14 bolt axle, and a receiver on the back. Might use the bed for this truck or save it for another project, not sure yet. Not bad for $500 grin

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Posted By: jmoore Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Sun Oct 20 2019 12:51 PM
That's a great find!
Posted By: Clarence49 Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Mon Oct 21 2019 02:00 PM
Great job 👍
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Mon Apr 13 2020 06:46 PM
Update!

Been working off and on the cab itself, almost all the rust spots have been replaced, just need to tackle the kick panels and above the windshield.

Also got the frame back from the body shop, its nice and straight now considering how it looked previously! I went ahead and ground off the rivets holding the front shock mounts on to clean up the rust that was between them and the frame rails, since they form a pocket where water and dirt ends up. Seen where people have drilled a small drain hole in the mounts, so I did that as well.

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Posted By: AtomicYJ Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Sun May 24 2020 03:17 AM
If you wanted to avoid an axle swap, Chevy used that rear end up until ‘72 and even made 4.10 gear sets. Most 14 bolt FF will be 4.10 or 4.56, but 3.23 and 3.73 gear sets were factory options if you need something that high
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Tue May 26 2020 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by AtomicYJ
If you wanted to avoid an axle swap, Chevy used that rear end up until ‘72 and even made 4.10 gear sets. Most 14 bolt FF will be 4.10 or 4.56, but 3.23 and 3.73 gear sets were factory options if you need something that high
Huh, didn't know that. Though I still plan on running a 14 bolt, got a friend who has 3 late 70s GM motorhomes he wants to break down and told him I'd like the 14s from them.
Posted By: EdPruss Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Tue May 26 2020 08:27 PM
Don't forget, 14 bolts came in SF and FF.

Ed
Posted By: Possum Re: 1958 Chevy 3800 Project Truck - Tue May 26 2020 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by EdPruss
Don't forget, 14 bolts came in SF and FF.
I'm well aware grin The 'trailer' I posted before has a SF while the motorhomes have the narrower FF axles.
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