Hmmm. Last post was 2006!! Yikes! Been busy with work, promotions, work........ A buddy hit me up and after many years wants to go racing again. He wants to (re)build a fuel altered and a top fuel FED cackle car. So I says to him, "do you know what would make a good push car?? My Suburban!!" Ahh, all it takes is a little spark!! So, out with the grand dreams of a full on pretty car! Let's get 'er back together and drive it for a while!! A little primer, a few windows...... Same web page, more pics added!! Feel free to ask questions, if you like!!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban3.htm
......coming along nicely. Thanks for the pics.
A little more cleaning, a little more paint.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban4.htm
Your definitely making progress which means your getting closer and closer and thats what motivates us to keep on doing it.
Time to address the passenger side windows. A little more rot there but the pieces are saveable for now. I do have to make an outer molding lower retainer bracket. Time to dig out the nibler.
Looking goooooood! Comin right along a bit at o time. Keep us up to date!
Side widows are done. As long as there is no more rain in the forecast, I can peel the cargo doors off, grind off the paint, put them in black and reseal the glass. I also got new glass for the side doors. Time to work on them things.
...your an inspiration to a lot of folks. Keep it going and thanks for keeping us posted. Way to go.
Passenger door glass is done. Gonna make page 5 later. Stay tuned.
Grill. Time to get serious about the front sheet metal. Started stripping the barn doors.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban98.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban5.htm
Trust me. That grill is a lot straighter than it was on page one!
Multi tasking. Brakes, stripping the front of the motor, fitting the inner fenders, figuring out the power steering, finding exhaust flanges that fit, considering using the original radiator.................
Got the juice portion of the stop it done. On to the power steering and fabbing an alternator bracket. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban5.htm
....looking good. Your definitley gaining on it. The end is in sight...isn't it!!
Yep. Plugging away. Have to work hard at not getting ahead of myself.
Darn brake lines. Hmmmm. The morning dew sure leaves a big puddle under there. ACK! Looks like I have a leaking union. So I change that out and, nope, starts dripping even faster! And that union ain't in an easy to get to place, neither! Out comes the whole rear line. Time to make a new one...........
Meanwhile, the power steering side of the block is starting to look like something. I'm even playing with the headers.
Work continues on the power steering plumbing. Plans to use the original radiator fell through when I pressure tested it and found too many pinholes. So I'll keep using it for mock up. Some exhaust tubing showed up in the mail. So did the Tuned Port wiring. AND, I'm making a pile of things to go to the chromer. The modified Corvette serpentine system seems like it will work out. AND I think I'm getting close to wiring it all up. I'm thinking of re doing the gauge pod with modern guts. I don't want to plumb a oil pressure tube ( teen horror story ) and I don't want to use the coolant pill tube. I want to use senders.
I know, I know. More pictures. I'll work on that too!
....you will most definitely like the serpentine system. Looks like your making good progress.
Plans, for now, is to do a wood floor in the cab. Gonna need a complete metal tear out but this will do for now.
New pics. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban5.htm
Carry on brother. You da man. Sure want to see some of the pics of the build on the wood floor...thanks for sharing.
No recent updates. Been helping a buddy restore the 1971 world champion top fuel dragster for his friend who's been diagnosed with ALS. We wanted to get it to the October Hot Rod Reunion but looks like we won't make it. So now we are trying for the World Finals in November. I'm still on track to get the Suburban on the road and running the first quarter of 2013. We wanted to use the Burb as a push car but that won't happen anytime soon. If anyone is interested, I have pics of the dragster!!
..its admiral of you do to take the time to do this for someone. Yes, I'd like to see a pic. If you can't post here send it to my email address in my profile. Good luck on all your doing.
Dragster Pics. Overall goal, get it restored for cackling, not racing. Basically for show.http://www.bunchobikes.com/schultzandglenn.htm
One of my jobs was to make tank brackets. The goal was to temporarily attach the period tanks without welding on the frame (the frame is still NHRA certified.) Success on the oil tank. Not so much on the nitro tank. I miss measured and the tank sits too far back and too high. Not easy to do this stuff when the dragster is in one county and I'm making brackets in another. Try number 2 coming next..............
The Hemi still needs to be built and dropped in.
I actually have more pics of the other stuff I've been working on. Blower, manifold, injector.
Thanks and good luck. You can do it.
Well, days are short which means less light which means not much in pictures. But, I've been working on little things. You know, the 5 minute jobs that never end. Tax return is coming, so that will mean radiator, mufflers and a few other necessary items. I'm getting a little excited because I think I am still on target to make this thing run by March. Work also continues on the race car stuff.
Hay Mark I was just looking at your pictures.The Burb is looking good. Your gas tank sure looks like it might work for my 37 panel. Can I ask where you got it and how many gallons it is?
It is the stock 1951 tank that came with the vehicle. I modified it for fuel injection.
Still plugging away. Gotta get the intake figured out. Finalize the exhaust. Figure out what to do about the VSS and speedometer drive. Install the new radiator, install the new trans cooler lines. Throw in some engine wiring and I should be able to fire it pretty soon. Then I'll move on to wiring lights and the dash.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban121.jpg
Mark, that engine sure looks like it's nestled in there real good. you gonna be cruising SOON.
Shiny stuff installed / fitted. More new pics.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban6.htm
Got the engine belt in. Really not as easy as that just sounded. It took a lot of work!!
A couple of pics added. Been really busy with the dragster stuff. Seems like there is a show every weekend!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban6.htm
.....yeah, but your making PROGRESS
Thanks for the support, Alvin!!
Burb is looking good Mark. Keep up the good work, it will pay off!!
Thanks! Starting to get serious about the wiring!
Well, got some wires up through the floor to mount the fuse panel and computer under the seat. I need to make a plate to cover the tool hole to mount everything on top. I'm going to have a real minimum approach to wiring with capacity at the fuse panel to add when I have to. I have an October deadline. My buddy is threatening to get an era correct station wagon to use as a push car if I don't get this thing going. Unfortunately, that dragster also requires a lot of work and the funny car needs to be ready for October, also.
I hooked up the battery. Cranked the motor until I had oil pressure ( temporarily hooked up the oil pressure gauge. ) First time this thing has had a cranked motor or oil pressure since I bought it in 2006!! Maybe tomorrow I'll put some spark and fuel to it to see what happens!
Sounds like your ready to Rock n Roll, Mark. I'm waiting to hear it purring like a kitten. Hope it goes well.
Minor set back. That poor brand new fuel pump has been sitting in an empty tank for almost 7 years. I put 12v to it and it was a no go. Need to order a new one, drop the tank and replace. Which is a good thing anyway since I think I still had one pin hole left in the tank that needed attention. Wiring is coming along fine. Maybe today I can get get some wires on the back of the fuel gauge.
Trust me Alvin, when I get it fired up I'll take some video and post it up on this thread! Still a ways to go but getting much closer.
Got a start button: http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban137.jpg
And some gauges ( until I have the originals updated ): http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban138.jpg
Start button mounted.
I still need to order the fuel pump.
Alright, let's see. Fuel pump parts should be in tomorrow. I don't have any lights but all the wiring is there. I just need to hook them up! I have no radiator fan. Well, at least not installed yet. I need to put the plug wires on the drivers bank of cylinders. I need to put the correct Delphi connector on the harness for my HEI. Otherwise, all sensors are hooked up. I guess, once that fuel pump is in, I just need to check for pressure at the rail. Hopefully those dormant injectors will be fine. If I have the time, I don't see why I can't fire it up. Getting excited, for sure!!! I need to find a place for the temp sender. I think the only place I have is in one of the heads. Most of the wiring went under the plenum, down the bell housing and under the cab. My goal wasn't to make it a super clean look, but it's looking clean enough. This is gonna be fun! I'm going to need new tires as the old ones are separating just from sitting so long. They weren't the newest in tires to begin with. AND, I still need to have the VIN verified and registration finished up! A lot of five minute jobs! Hopefully I will post more pics soon.
Okay. Got the fuel tank back in. Got all the ignition wiring done. Found a way to properly install my idiot lights. Cranked for oil pressure, put the prom in, put all the fuses in, key on for fuel pressure. I can hear the pump whirring, so that's a good thing. Checked the schrader at the rail and I have fuel ( with pressure.) Boy, you can smell the varnish! That worries me a bit more as the injectors might be sticky. Now, I know I said I'd take video of the first fire up, but I want to crank it to see if it would even catch. So I crank. Very tiny signs of life. Mechanics 101. Check for fuel, check for spark. I do two birds with one stone, I throw some ether down the throat. Yeah, it has spark. It kicks over good. So those injectors must be stuck.
I spray ether and crank, spray either and crank, etc. It's actually to the point where it will start on its own and idle roughly. But there are still some stuck injectors. Between the heat and the work, I'm feeling pretty beat. Me hands hurt a bunch too. So, I have it on a rough idle and you can really hear the air draw through that K&N filter. I can also hear a knock coming from the passenger lower area??? Remember, I'm on the West coast, and I bought the engine / trans from back East. Supposedly good condition with only 88k on it. I haven't run this enough to really warm it up. I also still have a little more cooling system work to do. Set up the fan, find a place for the temp sender and install the overflow. So I really don't want to run it just yet until I can see what the temp is.
The engine showed up dry but the old filter with oil still in it was on it. I still have that old filter. So I cut it open to see the contents. No metal, nothing abnormal. Definitely no bearing pieces. So, I need to do something about my cooling issues. Then I want to run that motor through a heat cycle, see if it will loosen some stuff up. Who knows what moisture or whatever got in there while it sat when I owned it. I mean, I kept it covered when it rained, but I did have the headers off and exposed throttle body. Maybe that "knock" will go away.
I'm tired. This was stuff I did over the past few days but today I spent the whole day not doing anything. Did I mention that I also worked on the dragster putting the blower back on, new header and some other stuff. Actually, today I measured stuff and started making my next parts list. And I managed to break the overflow nipple at the cap housing. Gonna have to fix that.
On a positive note, at one time I put it in gear and I could feel the transmission engage. That and the idiot lights look like they are working. The CEL goes out after the engine starts running and so does the generator / alternator light. I haven't checked voltage yet, but I'll take it as a good sign. Yes, it is the alternator that came with the motor.
I threw it through one heat cycle. A lot of rust in the antifreeze. Going to have to flush that. The more I fire it, the smoother it gets. The knock isn't as loud but you can still hear it pretty good on the video. Guess I should bring home the vacuum gauge to see how the valves are doing and maybe the compression gauge.http://youtu.be/jY7vKiNVbng
Well, I think you have a big smile on your face this afternoon. No cigars yet but it does breath!
Mark, give yourself a pat on the back, its OK, then go get two hot dogs and a big Pepsi. Kick back and take it all in. You are well on your way to a road trip. Thanks for posting and updates. I'm watching you
I'll see if I can't get a few more pics up today.
Well, y'all talked me in to it. I wasn't going to install turn signals but I modified all the lights for them in case I wanted to down the road. Guess I'm going to throw on the bullet lights out back and a turn signal switch. At night, that single tail light just isn't enough! Plus I'm a big fan of glass lenses, so two more out back will be really nice!!
Wiring continues. All those little 'street legal' details that need to be accomplished!!
Hmmm. If AAA is open Monday, maybe everything will be in place for me to inaugural drive it down to the office to finish the registration process?? Get me some plates and be legal?
Yeah Alvin..........BIG SMILE!!!!
Okay. That was a fail. I got a lot of parts in. Still waiting on tires and headlights. Been installing some little items.
Amongst the parts I ordered was a speedometer needle. Took apart the speedo to find out that it was bad anyway. Tried to jimmy it to get the needle to work somewhat, that was a fail. Oh well, took a deep breath, found a red lid from my creamer container to make a new high beam indicator lens. Repainted some other parts some non traditional colors. Installed the needle any way. The thing has a bad clock spring. So it will either indicate 0 mph or 60 mph all the time until it finally breaks. But it should count miles just fine. If I need MPH, I'll just break out an old GPS that I have. I don't use it much anymore because I use my smart phones' Google Maps to keep me from being lost.
BIG SMILE NOW!!!!!
Got the cooling system locked down. Fired it up again. Really let it cook this time! That "knock" is quieter and quieter. Maybe a bit of rust on something that is cleaning up? Maybe I'll roll it forward on its own power to clean up my work area. Still have a little more wiring to do, brake light / TCC switch. I really need to clean up all my tools and work areas so I can readily find all the tools I need. I think I'm close enough. Friday might be the day I make it legal then start all the shake down runs! Still a lot of little things to do!!
Wow. It's a little loud in the cab. Need to get some insulation going. Also, time to work on security. Gotta get the window locks back in and the door locks. The engine will need some finessing. Trans, brakes, etc., will all need fine tuning.
Finally, eh?? Updated page with more pics and video!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban7.htm
Oh wow, what a good story. Have got this update in the Gallery now, including the video! Will be anxious to see the October story at the race!
Thanks for all the work - here and there.
I know what that knocking is!! Time for a new power steering pump! I think the alternator is letting go too. Gonna replace both of them! The little bugs are starting to go away. As they do, the motor is getting quieter and the RPM's are becoming more acceptable. I'm driving it more. At least more further distances and higher speeds. I'm getting more comfortable with this old machine as time goes on! A new speedometer head should be delivered today. That will give me, at least, a ballpark idea of how fast I'm going. Fuel gauge is giving me issues. Sender?? Gotta do some testing. I hope I don't have to drop the tank again! I decided to go electric on the wiper motor. It was the path of least resistance. That should be coming in the mail pretty soon.
Doh! And here I'm thinking the fuel sender is a 0-30 ohm like stock. I dug through my old receipts to verify and it looks like I have a 240-33 ohm. New gauge ordered. Thrashing and fixing continue to get it ready for the road trip in three weeks. Wiper motor showed up. Time to install that, too!
So, I'm tired of the drivers door popping open. I figure it's time to get new latches. BTW, I spent all night testing out the push bar on the dragster while at the same time we were adjusting the clutch on the dragster. Push up to one end of the yard, then back down. It was almost comical. Somebody should've been taking video!! Finally got the clutch adjusted and was able to push to 35 mph and spin the Hemi motor. I think that part of this whole project is ready to go. Just got to drive the whole mess up to Bakersfield!!
I've been a little stressed and worried. How is this Suburban gonna do out on the open highway?? I really haven't taken it out for any freeway runs! I already know the front sits a tad bit too low, so the tires rub. I put in some of those little twisty-doo coil spring thingys and brought the front up a little. That will work out great with the 50+ lb push bar on the front bumper, the tuner and crew inside, all while pushing that top fueler down the return road. Eventually, I'll have to get some proper, non-sagging springs or mess with the wheel offset. You know those Camaro clips are a little wider than the stock track.
So, doors popping open. I figure, let's go 30 miles south to The Truck Shop and pick up some new latches and outer handles. What better way to test the 'Burb than to drive it down there. Without getting in to a whole lot of description, what a pleasant ride!! A whole lot less stress and worry. I'm going to have a lot more confidence when I head up to Bakersfield. I'm even to the point to where I want some tunes in my ride. The iPod and little speaker will have to do for now. On the plus side, no commercials!
And another plus. I topped the tank before I left. Drove down, drove back, topped the tank again. The 1986 Corvette is rated at 22 mpg hwy ( less than the same year Camaro. ) By my rough math, I did 20-22. Not bad. The mpg and overdrive, it will be a nice drive when I go on my little journey.
Okay. Back to work. Latches, middle seat, horn.............
Mark, just remember, leave room for a chipmunk, I'm riding with you!!!
Way to go. Seeing what you've done is the highlight of my day
Mark, just remember, leave room for a chipmunk, I'm riding with you!!!
Way to go. Seeing what you've done is the highlight of my day
Holiday today, work for two days then pack up and go.
Well? Made it here in one piece. No issues to report. Tomorrow will be some pushcar practice.
Yesterday, I got to push start the fueler on a practice run. THAT WAS COOL! This is going to be fun. I hear this can be watched live on Bangshift.com The parade of cars starts at 6 pm Pacific time, Saturday. There are a few Stovebolts here and there doing push duties. There is a panel around here that, if it wasn't a panel, could be a twin to my ride. I think I'm the only AD Burb here. There are other Burbs.
Story to follow. We are the third pair down. If you watch long enough, you'll see my ride 2 more times as I was voluntold to go push another car.
Me doing my job: http://youtu.be/vduOEEccXh4
Me doing more work: http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban159.jpg
OK. Thursday. Packed my bags, a tool bag, some fluids, a bag of safety gear, my ipod with a little external speaker system, extra jackets and two coolers full of ice and water. I cranked up the engine and let it warm up a little. My wife put my boy on the bus then sat in front of my Burb 'cause she didn't want me to go. I leaned out the window and told her, "I built this thing, do you really want to sit in front of it??" Play time was over. Time to go.
I hopped on the California freeway system and.....sat in traffic a bunch. Yeah, I shoulda left real early. A lot of stop and go traffic. Everything was working good. Music was cranking. A good test for the cooling system which passed with flying colors. Didn't really have any issues except when traffic speed picked up and I went to merge in to the lane to the right of me. I looked to the right and when I looked back, my lane was stopped. I had to swerve to the right to avoid hitting the guy in front of me. Next on the "to do" list, a rear sway bar.
I got to the Castaic area when my 2 cups of coffee started talking to me. Stretch time! I stopped at a McDonalds and figured I would get an Egg McMuffin or such. Duty done, time to climb the Grapevine. When this thing drops in to overdrive, the RPM's are pretty low. The whole vehicle buzzes! You start noticing when you climb the grade and it drops out of overdrive. Climbed the hill, no problem but felt like horsepower was dropping off near the top. Anyway, up the Grapevine, through Gorman and back down the other side. Good time to see if the brakes work well. They do!
Got to south of Bakersfield and figured it was a good time to check fuel. Remember, the gas gauge isn't working just yet. The Suburban has a 16 gallon tank. I put 7.5 gallons in. That makes me feel good! I should be able to do the whole weekend AND drive home. Onward and upward. Through Bakersfield and on to the track. I actually took the wrong off ramp and had a nice drive through some groves. Got to the gate and called my people for my credentials and passes. In I go. I install the pushbar and kick back, take in the place. Not much going on in the place as it is move in day.
Friday. Some more move in going on. Some cackling. Some testing. Some racing. The Burb is parked in a designated push car parking area. Early, we fire up the dragster to do some tuning and make sure everything is working well. Our driver arrives. By late afternoon it is time to try a push start. The dragster is one of the longer ones made back in the day. I bring the Suburban around, we push the dragster out of the pits and I get behind it. We haven't even made the right turn out the pit road yet. They need to push it backwards. I need to back up. Pit road is full of racers trying to get to the staging lanes. I have a golf cart right on my back bumper and they aren't moving backwards. Chaos multiplied. We finally get the dragster around. I get behind it. We finally start moving towards the staging lanes. http://www.bunchobikes.com/chrrstaging.jpg
After getting up through the staging lanes, we finally are waved forward to do a push start. The dragster roars to life with a bang like an M80. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban159.jpg
All works well. We push back to the pits, park the dragster and I park the Burb. The big show, Saturday night is next!
Mark, Congrats! Looks good! More pictures please.
.....some guys are having waaaay to much fun
He he. Pictures. I wish. I was the guy doing the work. No time to take pictures. There should be plenty on the web by now. Pics and video.
So, Saturday. We get there early. I see a guy using my push bar as a rest so he could take pictures of the parade of cars going by. No worries. We do a morning cackle to make a little noise and make sure all is good with the dragster. Sometime during the day, an engine builder comes by and asks our crew chief about the tune up. After a little discussion, he gives him a few tips to use. We do a late afternoon fire up to make sure the dragster has heat in it for the big parade. Boy does it sound and look good! Those tips really paid off. When I'm not busy working or helping with the dragster, I go wander. I look at other cars, the small swap meet, etc. I wander after the afternoon fire up and when I get back, I see everyone getting busy. Time to get to the lanes! We end up near the front of the mass of dragsters. Funny car finishes running. Seems we are in the way of some roadsters. The roadsters have guest of honor and such. We are told to push up past the mass of dragsters so the guest can drive through. So there we are out where everyone can see us. I hear over the loud speaker the crowd being given the details of our car. Cool! The parade hasn't even started and our dragster is being pointed out. Of course, my Burb right behind it. We wait, and wait. Then, a few dragsters start to push / parade down the track. Two cars go then I have someone banging on the back of my Burb saying " Go, Go, Go!" Mind you, I've never done this before. I don't want to go first. I want to watch a little so I can see what has to be done. Oh well, down the dragstrip we go. Uneventful. Although I could have paraded slower.
We get to the other end and turn on to the fireup road. Now we wait for the other 60+ dragsters to parade. While I'm sitting there, Steve Gibbs, the guy running the whole deal, sneaks up to my drivers window and startles me a little. He ask if I would volunteer to come around and push another dragster that doesn't have a pushcar. What am I going to tell him, no? He gives me quick instructions, then disappears. A few moments later, he comes back with white shoe polish and writes a big "2" on my passenger windshield. He squeezes a little too hard and white stuff goes all over my cowl. He tries rubbing it off. Whiles he's doing that, I tell him "Don't worry, I got more black paint!" This gets him laughing. That's a good thing, to get Steve laughing!!.............
Waiting our turn: http://www.bunchobikes.com/sng138.jpg
So, let's see. Steve Gibbs is laughing. Steve Gibbs. Who is Steve Gibbs?? He is THE MAN!! He ran NHRA as the Competition Director for many years. Some say the NHRA has gone down hill since he retired. http://www.bunchobikes.com/stevegibbs.jpg
After he retired, he MADE the NHRA Museum. He is now semi retired. http://www.bunchobikes.com/stevegibbstoday.jpg
He runs most of these NHRA Nostalgia shows. So when Steve asks if I'll push another car, you bet!!
So, we're in line waiting. Off goes the first car. Steve then asks us to roll up and wait. He sends off another car. We wait. Then he waves us on. What a thrill!! Our dragster fires up. Funny, later on when I talked to our driver, he says that that is the earliest he ever fired up. See, he knows how to put on a good show and he knows it is about the show. When they used to push start for racing, they would wait until the very last minute to fire so that they could conserve fuel for the race. Weight is everything and having that heavy nitro in the tank helps keep the front end from flying up in the sky. Tonight, this thing is going to burn fuel for a half mile. 1/4 mile down the fireup road and 1/4 mile up the track. Plus a few extra minutes to wow the crowd.
In the Suburban, I have the Crew Chief, the Crew Chief's wife, the owner, his wife and me. Since we are going to push another car, the Crew Chief is going to roll out of the Burb as I drive past to go to my next push. I ask the owner of the dragster to stay with me in case I need any help at the other end. The ladies stay with us too. I only have the front row and the middle row. Enough for all of us.
So, the dragster fires up. I follow him but then I need to stop. That darn dragster is so long it won't make the turn back up the track. It needs to be pushed back and turned again. Up he goes. Now, the volunteers or workers aren't clear on how things work. Half of them want me to go on the other side of the wall where most of the push cars will end up going. The other half say, "No. He has the '2'! He goes up the track!!" I follow the dragster up the track. Our driver makes his way down the track and turns in to his spot as directed. I slow enough for the Crew Chief to get out and I continue down the track with the rest of my passengers. Hey! First time I've ever been down a drag strip and it's in a 1951 Chevrolet 3106!!
But why am I telling you all of this???? Watch for yourselves!! In HD with sound!! http://youtu.be/vduOEEccXh4
By the way. Watch as that engine takes heat and the flames get longer and longer and longer........... More to come. Next, I go around to push another car.
Eh. Dang water pump gave out.
Been a little while. Just painted the inside rear walls. Small parts and trim are at the powder coater.
need some pics when he powder coated pieces come back.
Good work Mark. Doggone it, some guys have all the talent!!
Well, let's see. Got some headliner done. I'll give a thumbs up on using ABS as a medium instead of cardboard. Got my trim back from powder coat and installed it. Took it to various shows and got a lot of compliments. I'm going to add a trans cooler up front just because I don't want to cook the trans again. In fact, that is my goal for 2016 along with the regular work. Regular work will be to finish painting the inside. 2016 goals are to install a trans cooler, rear sway bar, and finally purchase the shorter A arms from Fatman and install those. Also, I'd like to finally grind all the outer layers and put it in a coat of epoxy. More pics for your viewing pleasure:http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban175.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban176.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban177.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban178.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban179.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban180.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban181.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban182.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban183.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban184.JPG
BTW, back when the water pump when out, I was sold a wrong rotation pump. Had over heating problems going to one of the events. Changed the pump there. Solved the problem. That there is the explanation on the trans over heat comment. I think all is good now in the cooling area of things but it sure wouldn't hurt to add that trans cooler. Maybe later I will relate the chain of events on that little ol' water pump!
Mark, you give me bunches of ideas as I have yet to put my headliner in the panel. I did use the ABS firewall cover piece and liked it. Sooo many ideas! That's a good looking headliner.
Great job on the headliner.
The abs looks far more solid than the cardboard I have seen installed in other "restored" suburbans. Great job!
So, when the water pump was giving me fits, he motor would cook and the trans would boil over dumping trans fluid on the exhaust. Luckily, no fires. I do have a small extinguisher bolted in the back. When I was at the races, I fixed the water pump and have had no overheating problems since. However, while driving back home from the races, I hit the pass at 70+. Uphill it was booking and the motor stayed cool, but the trans got a little hot. It, again, pushed a little oil out the dip stick tube. I slowed down a bit, things cooled down and I had no problems the rest of the way home. Well, it was, literally, down hill the rest of the way. So, one of the projects I needed to do next was a trans cooler in addition to what is already plumbed through the radiator. Enjoy the pics. The last picture shows the old connection to the radiator with the new connection to the cooler. The choice was make it look pretty or make it service-able. I went with service-able. I can break the connection right there and connect to a trans flush machine when needed.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban186.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban187.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban188.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban189.JPGhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban190.JPG
Well, been spending a lot of time just going in to the shop and staring at the thing. Did a little bit more than just stare at it today. Working on painting the dash.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban191.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban192.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban193.jpg
Mark, progress is progress, no matter how much, or how little. It will get done! Thanks for sharing.
No, no. Not sleeping. More paint. Seat riser, dash, door jambs and currently grinding on the inner doors. I'll get pics up soon. Oh yeah, added new side panels. No more cardboard. Now with ABS. Added some walking area / courtesy lighting and speakers. Finalized the spot light install.
nice, you might consider moving to the Project forum where
folks can see whats up... you have done a lot of good work
I thought the Project Forum was invite only?
Okay! Rear doors are off! Time to sand and paint!
Only thing I can say is Good Job. I wish I had your patience! Thanks for the update pictures.
Thanks all!! I work on it as time and budget allows.
I hate weatherstrip adhesive. Quite messy. It doesn't help that my tube of black was no longer effective. Luckily, my tube of yellow was up to the task. Tried something different. Tried to mask of the area that I didn't want to have glue get on. Worked reasonably well.
Except for installing the windows, I'm about done with the back doors. The paint and body work turned out the way I wanted on the inside. The exterior could use a little more smoothing. I did a temporary fix for the everlasting drooping handle. I ground off about 3/16" from the tip and coated the raw end with some silver paint. Now it clears the door panel. I've fitted the window rubber, now I just need to superglue the ends together. When I removed the tail light at the beginning of the project, I yanked a wire out of the socket, so that needed repair. I soldered a new contact to the offending wire. Then did the same to the good wire so both would match height wise inside the socket.
Car show season is upon me. I definitely have push truck duty in June and at the end of September. In fact, I was supposed to take it for push car duty on May 4, 5 and 6 in Tucson but plans changed and I will be hauling a really nice shoebox Ferd for a friend. I also want to drive it as the weather is nice. But that roof and the hood are calling to me!! They both want to be ground down and coated with that nice Southern Polyurethane Epoxy Primer!! Guess I have some scheduling and decisions to make!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban270.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban271.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban272.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban273.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban274.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban275.jpg
Your doing good work, Mark. I also cut a 1/4" off my rear door handle and shot it with some chrome paint. Heck, you never see the end anyway! The handle was so close without cutting it. Smart move....continue on and continue keeping us updated!!
The first time I got rear glass rubber from Classic Parts, the stuff was somewhat hard. When I installed the glass, a lot of the inner lip tore off. I wasn't afraid the glass was going to fall out, so I just left it. This time around, the rubber I bought from Classic seemed to be softer. I laid it in the opening and cut it 1/2" longer than needed. I superglued the two ends together. I also opted for new glass with green tint to match my windshield glass. The glass installed without using any kind of lube. Pretty easy morning. Reattached the rear apron and bumper. Time to unload all the Pergo I put in there to store and make the Burb fit in the shop. I'm also going to wash it and dust out the inside. I have a Sunday microbrewery/car show to go to tomorrow. So I might as well drive it there!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban276.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban277.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban278.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban279.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban280.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban281.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban282.jpg
BTW, Alvin. The difference between new glass and the old is night and day!
Thanks for the response, Mark. I don't have the need now but somewhere down the road I may put new in. Thanks for the update. They are always welcomed.
Replaced the drivers cargo door bumper and took one of my old side handles, applied Alvin's Tech Tip,
and converted it to make a non-droopy cargo door handle. Instead of a grinder, I had a new toy to play with. A mill/drill. So I chucked in an end mill, made 4 flats, then took it to the final fitting with my die grinder and a sanding disc. Fits super snug!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban287.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban288.jpg
Where did you find the cargo door bumper? Nice work.
Phillip, its been a while but I got mine from Steele Rubber. Kind of expensive for one little rubber bumper but they were the only one I found to have them. Paid over ten bucks 4 years ago.
...Mark, if you found them somewhere else please clue us in. I have a friend that will need a couple soon.
Thickness is pretty close and a slightly bigger diameter. I would also suggest a bigger washer than what they ship it with.
Nice! I will get mine ordered. I have my old one on my work bench and have wondering where do I find one of these??
Appreciate the photos too.
Thank you Mark. I believe a new one will tighten up my rear door a bit without having to finagle the latch catches. Your our hero!
That's what I noticed about mine. The door sat where I wanted it to be, but the old bumper had a gap between it and the rear sill. With the new rubber, it rests on the sill. I haven't driven it yet to see if there are any less squeaks, but I like what I see.
Glad I could help!!
Okay. So, as I've mentioned a few times, I use the Suburban to push a vintage dragster around. It's a show thing. Looks something like this: http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban159.jpg
Anyway, I had made an attachment to my front bumper to attach the push board to. When the push board wasn't there, the attachment looked like ugly bull horns and was a shin beater if you weren't watching where you were going. So, I decided some time ago to move the receiver behind the front bumper. I still have a little more work to do, but the picture tell the story. After June, since I have a couple of shows to attend, I will again remove the bumper and pieces to take to have chromed. Enjoy the pics!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban290.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban291.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban292.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban293.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban294.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban295.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban296.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban297.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban298.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban299.jpg
Mighty sweet pusher you got there!
Mighty sweet pusher you got there!
Made the hole fillers. They are spring loaded. So when I pull the pins, they pop out an inch or so. That way they are easy to remove. I buffed what chrome was left on them. So now it looks like two post-it notes on the bumper.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban300.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban301.jpg
Next up was to remove the tailshaft housing, reset the drive gear for the speedo with a new clip. New seals, new bushing for the yoke and new driven gear with more teeth to slow the speedo down a little. Not much in pictures for that except for the aftermath with a shot of the VSS.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban302.jpg
Gratuitous pic of the driveshaft decal.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban303.jpg
Been going to a lot of car shows lately. One thing I managed to do was adjust the front sheet metal. Aligned the hood and closed up the gaps between hood and fender. I think my drivers inner fender is a '54 as that's what a previous owner put on the truck for a replacement fender. I changed to a proper fender long ago. Holes didn't line up whatsoever at the grill. Made new holes. Bolted the fender through the inner fender to the grill. It's amazing how many squeaks go away when you do that. I still need to replace the drivers outer cowl panel along with the inner to outer piece. But that will come much later. I have another show or two next weekend. Then I can put the thing back in the shop and start grinding and smoothing the roof. I'll need it ready for another show or two in September. Plans are to spend a couple of summer months getting the roof in epoxy primer and, hopefully, even the hood and front fenders! Oh yeah, the front bumper should be going to the chrome shop also.
Looks good to me the way it's sitting now. But it's not my truck.
Sometimes, the back end looks a little high to me.
Drivers side of the roof shiny. Now, the passenger side.
....yep, keep the shiny side up
It great following along with you. Keep trucking brother.
Sanding, sanding, sanding.
I did get the front bumper back from the chrome shop. Cost me a couple of pennies. But, finding a triple plating business in Southern California is about as easy as finding a Suburban rear fender or rear window trim. If I remember correctly, my chrome shop owner says that it costs him $50,000 a year for his copper tank permit. It also took him a little longer than he estimated, but I was warned about that. Well worth the wait!! It turned out beautiful! I'll get some pictures up here eventually!
No more sanding. Time for tape! Too hot to paint this weekend. But the temps should be good next weekend!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban328.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban329.jpg
Mark, you going into the auto body repair?.....looking good. your patience is paying off....or do you have any patience left. LOL
I have more time than money!
I lied. I found more stuff to sand and smooth. It didn't seem right that I would only do the roof and bring it down to the belt line. Those sides and quarters started talking to me. So now I'm sanding both quarters and the passenger rear fender. I won't even waste my time on the drivers rear fender. AND, I have 2, maybe 3 weeks maximum to get this all done.
When I do get done with this latest phase, the suburban will be in SPI Epoxy Primer from the passenger doors on back. I'll still need to find a drivers rear fender and I'll still need to repair the lower back corners as they have the usual rot.
As always, pics will follow.
Mark - what is the function of the item with the bicycle wheel?
Mark - what is the function of the item with the bicycle wheel?
An American English wheel?
That is a bicycle fender roller. A few years back, when money was tight, I got in to restoring old Schwinn balloon tire bikes. Hence the http://www.bunchobikes.com
web site. These days I use it for multiple purposes. In fact, I'm thinking of making a narrow (1/4" wide) wheel to roll out the dents in my window trim.
New relay for the radiator fan with better wiring. Also, connected it to a thermal switch. We'll see how that works out today.
Fan relay turned out well. Turning my attention to the rear sway bar!
Sway bar installed. Pictures will follow. Just with the short drive home from work, I could feel a difference.
After next weekends show, I will make extra upper frame braces and remove the assembly for paint.
Next projects? Maybe "H" pipe the exhaust. Move the tail pipe exit to the rear of the vehicle. I still need to do AC, replace the left front fender brace. Maybe lower it a little, front and rear. Narrow the a arms? Continue with the front half of grind/beat/fill/primer. Work on some exterior patch panels. I should have some rear window trim in the mail, chrome those and install. Rebuild engine. Install a stronger radiator fan.
I'm getting dizzy just trying to come up with a list.
Also, leave it in black epoxy primer? Or paint it green?
..thanks for the pics. Some nice work your doing.
......If you can stand it, after all your already dirty, I'd go ahead and bite the bullet and paint it now. You'll be glad you did a little later on. (I'm good at spending other peoples money and telling them what to do) hehe
Oh, I like the way you set up your sway bar. Keep us posted later on how it works out for you.
Chassis Engineering bar, made for the truck. I tried to see if I could get it to work the way they designed it. But there is just too much going on with the tank and all.
Yep. Paint will be a debate.
I have a pair of rear fenders coming my way. Hopefully they are in better shape than what I have now.
Thanks for the compliments, Alvin!!
There are some curvy, mountainous in the backside of San Diego. The sway bar made it fun!
Mark, the sway bar made a world of difference in my Panel. Glad you have on or you'd think the top of the suburban weighed a 1000 lbs itself. Gld its working out.
Added a couple of pictures at the bottom of the page.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban16.htm
Mark, I'm getting a little jealous. I've said it before, I wish I had found a suburban to haul the grandkids in so they could "see out" rather than the panel. Your doing a real good job. (want to trade?).... (yeah, I know, your laughing!)
Some fender welt for my rear fenders showed up today. Hmmm. We'll see.
While I'm waiting for the epoxy to induce for fender #2, let me show you fender #1. No more exhaust hole, some solvent pop that was corrected, and then mounted on the Burb. I decided against the fender welt and and installed an insulating pad between the fender and the body.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban366.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban367.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban368.jpg
Mark, have I told you lately your doing a great job?? Well you are. Looking good my friend. Thanks for keeping us up to date.
Thanks for the positive support! It's one of the things that keeps me going on this project!
Hmmm. I bolted on the "new" passenger side fender and it seems to flare out some. Maybe I can flatten it out some.
Okay. Work begins on straightening out the front end sheet metal and doors. Starting with the drivers door and drivers front fender. Plus, I have an outer cowl patch coming for the drivers side. I want to have one more look at the original sheet metal before I go to the patch. As always, pictures will follow. Winter seems mild this year, so paint shouldn't be an issue.
I've learned that having a 1954 drivers inner fender makes things just not quite right. Hunting for an earlier version. So, when the LF got tagged, they replaced the inner fender, outer fender and whatever else they could find off of a 1954 donor. I'm working on making it right.
There is a heavy dose of rust on the LF fender. Grinding it off is going to take a while. I am considering doubling the size of the sandblast cabinet!
I've also decided to upgrade the front door outer window molding to a stainless version. Anyone have any thoughts or comments to fitness issues?
I've also decided to upgrade the front door outer window molding to a stainless version. Anyone have any thoughts or comments to fitness issues?
I think the SS exterior window SS molding for a door with a vent window is different from the SS molding for the earlier 1-piece glass window?
If so, i was probably only available in 1951 and in 54/55st (deluxe trim RPO/package)?
I think the SS interior door window trim for a vent window was only available in 1951 (but maybe the 1-piece glass interior deluxe SS trim can be adapted?
Let's hope someone with first-hand experience posts info.
This is my issue. The interior molding is fine and already powder coated to match much of my interior trim. The exterior molding was tweaked a little when they were close to the lift point when I lifted my body off the frame with the overhead crane. I've been wanting to reshape them but I don't think it will be possible. Lately, I've wanted to chrome all the window exterior molding and figured buying the stainless stuff would save me a little chrome shop money. I have Weeds calendar entry above my desk at work and his window bright trim has grown on me!
I was looking at the Truck Shop manual and they show the outer molding as 47-54 1st. The inner molding they only show as 47-50. So, I'm pretty sure the after-market outer stainless will work on the door. As with most complaints from folks doing body work, where patch panels don't fit or need a lot of messaging, I'm concerned if the after-market stainless has fitment issues on an original door.
I figure, the other benefit will be that the old exterior molding will now give me patch pieces to fix the passenger middle and rear window moldings. The drivers side is in great shape and can be run down to the chrome shop at any time!
Mark, I've kept up with your post but haven't checked in lately to let you know I think your still doing a dang good job. You give a lot of us hope! Good job!
Look likes Santa is running a little early this year.
Doing good Mark. Maybe you should start charging admission. hehehe
I'm beginning to think this paint mask is permanently stuck to my face!!
Now that gets top billing to me. Now you make me wish I had it. lol
Now I'll HAVE to get the rear side window trim chromed!!
Change of plans. I wasn't going to reassemble until May for a show in Monterey, CA. But now I have to be at the Winternationals. So, door is mostly done. Fender decent enough. Time to reassemble. I've been tweaking the 1954 drivers inner fender to fit, for now. I'm still on the hunt for the correct version. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban388.jpg
Okay. Two things I'm happy about. 1) I installed a super duper Spal fan to take place of an anemic Spal fan that I've had forever. I took a drive to visit my chrome guy. Lukewarm day. Going, almost no traffic. Coming back home, stop and go, through the city traffic. Temp held right where I wanted it to. We'll see what happens during the triple digit days of summer, but I like what I see so far! And 2) like I said, I visited my chrome guy. I asked him if he can chrome the current window trim I have. I heard he has a bunch of tiny people there that can bump out really small dents with really tiny hammers, then polish to a shine. I also asked him about chroming my original grill. He said no problem to both!! I can now stop the hunt for perfect trim pieces!!
Winternationals is done. Back in to the shop to pull the front end apart again. I need to patch the drivers cowl.
Had a hiccup at the drags. Friday and Saturday night, we were supposed to push the dragsters down the track. John Force blew up Friday, along with other things and the day ran late. About midday day they let us know that we wouldn't be doing any push starts. We had already put the axles in the dragster rear end. When the axles are in, the thing is a bear to move! There was an opportunity to go up to the grandstands and do a fire up. We decided to pass as it was just way to much work to do that. Later, after it got dark, we did a fire up at the Cackle Corral. There is a few videos here and there on Facebook showing this fire up with my Burb in the back ground. I'm not in the video as I was cooking burgers and dogs at the time.
Saturday, we got word that the push start was on. Before final qualifying rounds, we moved our mess to the top end of the track. There was going to be about 6 vintage dragsters that were going to push. As we were getting closer to our destination, I could smell antifreeze. I was hoping it wasn't me. They placed two of us out on the return road. At the big show the return road is quite the dangerous place. You have crews flying up at freeway speeds to retrieve their race cars. Once they retrieve them, they fly just as fast to get back to their pits so they can start the process to make the next round. So, we're out in the middle, they have all us human bodies move back behind a barrier because they're about to send some 300+ mph cars down a hot track. From my vantage point, I can see a drip and a puddle forming under the drivers side cowl. I talk to my partner and he says, if the track officials don't see it, we are a go. I'm more worried about not having enough coolant in the vehicle as opposed to making a mess. Some of our co-dragster people notice and I tell them to stop bring it up and ignore it. Unfortunately, the track officials see it and ask "Who's vehicle is that?" I tell them it's mine and they ask if it is AC condensation. I tell them I don't have AC and it is probably coolant. They tell us we can no longer be part of the party. I'm bummed.
Then my partner asks our coordinator how long it will be until we will be able to get on the track. He tells us an hour to an hour and a half! My partner asks, if we fix it, can we go?? He says yes! OFF TO THE RACES, so to speak. My top fuel tuner hops in the back and my partner hops in shotgun. Back to our pit we go. Now, my Burb is powered by a 1986 L98 out of a Corvette. It has an oil warmer. There is a nipple in the side of the block that goes to the oil filter housing, comes back out, goes to the front of the motor and dumps in to the heater system. GM put a lot of stuff on the 'Vette to help warm it up. Probably a bunch of stuff that I don't need in California, where it seems to be summer year round. The hose that comes off the nipple to the filter has a pinhole leak at the nipple. I couldn't see it at first and almost thought it was a head gasket! So, I'm handed some tools that might work and start to remove said hose. As I'm doing that, I noticed my cowl vent drain hose. Some long time ago, I put about a 3' hose on that drain and let it end down by the transmission. Something GM should've done with the side window drains. My cowl vent drain hose looks a lot like the correct diameter. The original plan was to cut the end off the old hose and re-clamp. New plan. Cut a section of good hose off the drain and use that. New hose installed, coolant in pans put back in the radiator, fire it up. I let it get to temp, burped the system and checked for leaks. NO LEAKS!! The whole time, knowing that we are going to push after the last round of Nitro, I'm listening to the track. The fuel cars are just barely finished warming up. They haven't even gone to the lanes yet. I'm drenched in antifreeze since I was laying in most of the contents of my engine. Good thing I always bring an extra shirt!
We zip on back over to where our dragster is and wait to get back over to it on the return road, There it is, all alone waiting to put on a show. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban393.jpg
The white, dusty spot behind it is where my Burb went tinkle. Thank you track crew!
After a bit, while fuel funny car was whizzing past at 300+ mph, they let us go out to the dragster and wait. One eye on the track with cars whizzing by, one eye on getting lined up, our driver in the car and getting ready to go! http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban391.jpg
The Safety Safari right in front of us! About this time, my phone decided it didn't like taking pictures any more. So, no more camera and I forgot the GoPro, ugh. The next pic, was taken by one of the guys that crewed with us Saturday. You can see the back end of my Burb, next to the Christmas tree, in front of the blue station wagon. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban392.jpg
Man, that was fun!!
Some video grabs:http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban394.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban395.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban396.jpg
One more. Taken from the back of the El Camino. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban397.jpg
Well written. I felt like I was in the driver seat............and also felt your frustrations. Kind of makes me want to race again......NOT.
Main thing is fun....got to have run and it seems your having your share. Now, back to garage! lol
TWO thumbs up Mr. Smith. When you get this one finished how about coming to the right coast. I have an old coupe that I just KNOW you can work miracles with! hehe
Nice work. You are gaining on it.
The more I do, the more exciting it gets. I'm thinking I might even have A/C this summer!!
Okay. Work began and completed on the drivers outer cowl and inner to outer cowl. I also listened to the voices in my head (AND members of Stovebolt) and corrected the passenger side mirror holes.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban19.htm
Nice! Bet your hands are sore!
Uh, oh. A Vintage Air unit showed up in the mail today!!
Side note. My web log is about to go to 20 pages. I try to keep it to 20 pictures per page. The thing has grown quite a bit. I was thinking of maybe, just maybe, going to 40 pictures a page and cutting the bottom links in half. Change it? Or leave it as is?
Another update coming soon.
As promised. Cowl work continues. So does modifying the Vintage Air unit...... in my mind! http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban19.htm
Work continues. Fender, hood. Passenger door has been remounted. Started grinding the hood and got to the point where I just had to do it right. Break it down, remove rust. Paint and reweld. Passenger fender is getting a skim coat and sanding, sanding, sanding! I'll probably be close enough to paint the fender and start painting the hood half.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban428.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban429.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban430.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban431.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban432.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban433.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban434.jpg
That is, do the hood inside and out.
Picture of the door panel is the door reinstalled. I tried the Classic Parts stainless panel trim around my ABS panel. I like it! I liked it so much, I got all new handles for both doors!
Yes. The boring, monotonous work of grinding, sanding, smoothing and painting continues! But, these will be the last major rust issues I will have to deal with that can be viewed externally. Goal was to make Laguna Seca on the 19th/20th. That's not happening because the motor in our dragster is tired and needs to be redone. That means finding an iron 392 hemi, prepping it and building it. Since my partner broke his leg on the inaugural run of our Fuel Altered, all race car things are on hold. Yeah, long story. Either way, I hope to have my work done in the next two weeks so I can start cruising again here real soon. Plus, I still have the AC unit to install where I can, hopefully, have a cool summer. Especially for my better half. Maybe she will even want to drive it now and again!
Oh, and I got the tubing bender assembled at work. I'm getting the itch to make some rear seats. I'm thinking I might want to make the third seat reversible. For two reasons. One, that's where my partner launches from when we push start the dragster. Someone stays with the dragster while I move the push car to a different location that doesn't block the view of the dragster for the fans. To date, anyone who has been in the cargo area just kinda rolls around back there. And two, if we take this thing to the drive in moving pictures show, two lovebirds can use the seat to watch a movie. Yeah, it probably won't be my two kids. More like me and wifey! http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban435.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban436.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban437.jpg
A plan man, always a plan! hadn't checked in lately but I see your still burning the candle. Nice work by the way.
(after all that work you'll need the lady to drive you around) !
Work continues on the hood halves. Thought I had finally bought my last quart of epoxy primer. Looks like I'll need one more. Added the 20th page, but I still need to update page 2 through 18 with the page 20 link. Too tired today to do it.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban438.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban20.htm
Alvin, I like that "wife drive me around" idea. Now, how to sell it!
Mark, your posting work faster than I can read and keep up with it. You are busier than a cat on a hot tin roof!.
Way to go. Glad to see someone is getting something done! You do good work.
Hehe! I thought I slowed down a bunch this last month!
The AC job has turned in to a big plumbing job. Work continues.
...... I got it one piece at a time........JCash!!
AC done. Oh so nice. Time to turn my attention to exhaust!
Just been cruising, enjoying my AC on these triple digit days. Still need to do exhaust. Looks like the speedo drive gear popped off the trans output shaft. Gotta fix that again. Did something dumb and found me a Model A Roadster to play with.
Okay. The issue. When I started seriously building this thing in 2012, I threw on some quickie turbo mufflers so the neighbors wouldn't complain and the police wouldn't come down on me for "noise" issues. It was still on the loud side but use-able. Something I need to add to my to-do list, is pull the heads and reseal the valve stems. Evidence is all the soot that was gathering on the under side. But the thing that really bothered me was that the passenger side exhaust was dumping on the fuel tank, warming my gas. So, time to get serious about rerouting my exhaust. I used 2 1/2" pipe because that is what I originally used to gather at the headers. Plus that was stock '86 Corvette (my motor.) I brought to passenger side over to the drivers side, to help keep the heat away from the fuel tank, and went in to a 2 in, out 1 muffler. Similar to what is on my 1998 C3500. Unlike my C3500, which is 2 3/4" out, the out pipe here is 3". Two 45* and one 90* got me up and over the axle. I went straight out the back for now. The chrome tip hasn't shipped to me yet. When it does, I will also get a 90* and turn that pipe to go out the drivers side. Maybe the passenger side. I'll have to stare at it a while to decide. Either way, I can't burn anyone's knees or shins with it coming out the back like that.
Results? I wasn't even sure the thing was running when I started it. Night and day difference. Unfortunately, now I can hear how bad the radio reception is and all kinds of new squeaks and noises I need to fix. It's going to take some getting used to, all this quiet!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban469.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban470.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban471.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban472.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban473.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban474.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban475.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban476.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban477.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban478.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban479.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban480.jpg http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban481.jpg
Thinking of starting to bend up some tubing for a second row and third row seat frame. Wish me luck!
Good Luck, Mark. We all know you can do it.
Okay. I changed the exhaust tip to come out the passenger side. Didn't make sense to have hot exhaust blasting at you as you open the barn doors. Also, a couple of pics of my high output Spal fan and fitment in the engine compartment. Yeah things are tight. That fan pulls all kinds of air. Triple digit days and the AC cranked, the temp stayed right where I want it. I think I've finally licked any over heating issues. We'll see how it does going up an down a few grades in 2 weeks and next month!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban482.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban483.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban484.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban485.jpg
Well, my thinking went from thinking to action. Started bending the base pieces for the second and third row seat. My third row seat is non-existent. My middle seat is possibly from a later Suburban? The base never even came close to the key holes. Plus, most of the steel is in a rust arrested condition.
So, third row first. The plan here is to come close to looking like an original seat. The goal is also to make a seat that can be reversed. When we push the dragster, my partner hangs out in the back. I should actually say, he rolls around back there. Tools and all. After the dragster fires, it rolls down the track under power and parks in a designated spot. Rules are that one crew member is allowed to stay with the dragster and driver in case anything goes nutty and to generally assist the driver. That is my partner. I drive the Burb, following the dragster down the track, stop long enough for my partner to get out, then go to my designated parking area off the track. Usually, I have a phone booth challenge going on in the Suburban and have about 200 people that ride along in the thing. Video of the process minus me slowing down for my partner to jump out. That year he decided to wait until until we parked the Burb, then he would jump over the wall. https://youtu.be/5S3njY53_qk
Anyway, none of us are getting any younger. At the beginning of the year, we had an incident while playing with the actual go fast race car. A fuel altered or AA/FA. A 6 second car. We were on the track to do a maiden shake down run. We started the thing and it lurched backwards. I was on the left side of the vehicle to operate the starter, next to the front wheel. My partner, who is the owner of the car, was standing on the left side of the car to gas the injector. He was behind the front wheel. Our shakedown driver is an awesome, natural driver. And is greatly experienced. He had the forethought to have it in reverse because that was the direction where nobody was and would do the least amount of damage if something happened. Like I said, the thing lurched when the ignition caught, and the car ran over my partner. Chaos ensued. The car is stopped, on my partner's leg. The engine is running and he reaches up and kills the fuel. He's funny as he said, "Well, no one else was going to do it!" The driver couldn't because he was wrestling the brake handle and gear box. The car is stopped, and stuck in gear, on my partners leg. We finally get it off of him, compound fracture, here comes the ambulance, etc., etc. My job is the get the car, pit, camp, everything packed up and put away. Or, at least direct everyone who doesn't know what to do. Just one of those things. Like I said, we aren't getting any younger.
Long story short, my partner is healed and has a nice titanium rod down his bone. He's in his mid 60's. I'm in my mid 50's. Also, keep in mind, these guys associated with the dragster raced back in the 60's-70's. They have a little time on them too. I like giving them a comfortable place to sit. So, time for my partner to have a seat he can sit in and not have to roll around the back cabin. And that's why the seat needs to be reversible. So I'll probably make the bottom section narrower than stock, if I can. The beginnings. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban486.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban487.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban488.jpg
Someone had asked. So I made this post on Facebook. I have re-posted it here.
The issue. It is almost impossible to find rear panel trim for a Suburban. Not to mention, the aftermarket panel replacements are gray colored cardboard. I had the cardboard, which you have to cut yourself, and it almost immediately started to warp and get wavy. That changed my mind about the headliner, so I went with some 1/8” ABS. Figuring I oughta match the headliner, I changed all side panels to ABS. I even made panels for the rear barn doors to protect them from future dents from loads. Give it a couple of summers, and various heat cycles, the ABS started to get a little wavy. Not as bad as cardboard, but enough to bug me. So I started hunting for some metal trim. I found some perfect stainless stuff across the pond, but I didn’t even want to figure out how or how much it would cost me to get it here in the US! It was already going to cost me a few hundred just for the material. Then I found this stuff. Right here in the good ol’ US of A.
Aluminum. They have shiny and satin.
It comes in 12 foot sections, so it costs a bunch to ship. However, they will cut it down for $7 and then shipping becomes more reasonable. So I tried one piece. I had them cut it so it was 2 inches longer than what I needed. I believe, for the rear panel which is the longest, you need somewhere just over 7 feet. That is if you want no joints. Otherwise, if you like welding stuff, have it cut in half. I got the smaller section and used it for practice. I was worried the stuff was too brittle to bend. It’s not. So it took the 7 footer and made myself some trim. I like the way it looks! Time to get more to finish the rest of the panels. I think it even looks better than the stainless trim I got from Classic Parts for the door panels.
You’ll see the in pics where I trimmed off the back side to make it easier to bend and bend evenly. Bending any channel makes it want to flare, so after bending, a soft hammer will flatten it out again. I basically bent it around my panel, removed it to complete the bends, finessed the bends, drilled or cleared the screw holes, and installed it. Tightening the screws made it conform to the body sides.https://www.dkhardware.com/brite-anodized-aluminum-1-8-j-channel-d18ba-product-20108.htmlhttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban489.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban490.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban491.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban492.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban493.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban494.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban495.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban496.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban497.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban498.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban499.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban500.jpg
Beautiful work/result, Mark
What will you do with the ABS-for-cardboard replacement?
I am just about ready to glue the color-matching upholstery material to the ABS, and insert this into the original channels (my metal channels/etc are good)?
Is that a bad idea?
Not a bad idea.
If I ever choose to do so, I can cover all that ABS. That's how I designed my stuff to be. But, I like the black for now.
Finished the side panel trim. I like the way it turned out. http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban506.jpg
I'm about done with the rear seat. I still need to make tabs to mount my plywood base for the bottom. And I need to make some braces across the 110* angle. Basically, from seat bottom to seat back.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban503.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban504.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban505.jpg
Next, when I can make a little time, the middle seat! Then send both frames off to powdercoat.
Okay. Took a break from the seats to do a show and other stuff. Figured it was about time to do the a-arms. As I probably said earlier, with the new exhaust, I can hear all the noises. Especially the tires rubbing the fenders. I didn't realize that they were rubbing that bad. I had enough pennies in the hot rod fund, so I picked up the Fatman Fabrications narrowed Camaro A-arms. I clipped this thing long ago with a 1975 Camaro clip, knowing I'd have to something about the width one day. What a PIA! Took me a few days. The rain didn't help as I was doing this in my driveway. Got 'er done. No more rubbing! My employee will check the alignment on Monday, then the following weekend, it is my annual trek to Bakersfield for the races. Enjoy the pics! I'm beat!
Oh, when I was done with the install, I took it for a test drive. I ended up behind a guy in a '53 three window. We ended up side by side. He hit the gas and I couldn't resist. At the next red, I asked and he told me he had a Dodge 360 in it. Not bad. Forgot all about me test driving! I guess I passed the test!http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban507.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban508.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban509.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban510.jpghttp://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban511.jpg
Nice ride! The upper A-arms hit the upper perch a bit on full travel, but that can be taken care of either lowering the vehicle or removing that little piece of perch. I like how the stance is now level, so I don't think I will mess with the ride height for now. Time to finish the rear seat and start on the middle. The engine is burning more and more oil, so it might be time to upgrade the powerplant to a roller cam version. Get me a little more longevity. Plus, it will give me a chance to detail the engine compartment. I make the to-do list smaller, and it seems to grow at the same time!
At the World Finals. Not doing much pushing. Maybe I'll take a few pics and post them!?!?!?
Work has been slow. I'm rebuilding or re-creating my middle seat and waiting for some rear corners from Jim Carter to cure the rot at the back of the Burb.
Mark, haven't checked in on you for a while but boy, you have been busy. You make me look so bad....I think I'll just go to my shop and hide there for a while!!
By the way, Great job.
Thanks as always, Alvin!!
Wow what a great thread! I love seeing the pictures. I cant wait start on my projects
Building the middle seat. Recovering seat #2 and #3.
Rear seat detail. I closed off the open tubing. Today I'll reupholster the the back and bottom, fit everything together, then the seat frame should be ready for powdercoat. Then back to the construction of the middle seat.
Middle seat progress.
A little beefier. I went from a 7/8" tube size to a 1" tube size.
Making round corners!
Updated the web site. Added 3 pages of pics. Will work on eliminating all the page links on each page. Just way too many. Will give a "Home", "Previous" and "Next" except for the home page which will have all the links. Maybe I'll come up with an index that will give a brief description of what's happening on each page. Maybe, we'll see.
As for work, I'm getting rid of a cold which slowed me down a little. I'm finishing up the middle seat upholstery. Then I'll start on the rear corners and rear splash apron.http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban25.htm
Great updates! Seat frames look awesome. Keep up the good work!
...and the beat goes on. Mark, you amaze me.....some folks have all the talent!!
Those were fun to put in. Not.
Make sure you have a drainage opening on each bottom corner.
Make sure the openings stay clear.
Very nice work.
Fitting new pieces.
Mark, those last few pictures sure bring back a lot of memories to me!! I think all these AD styles have the same ailments!!!
By the way, nice work. The list has to be getting shorter!!
My happy place. Ear plugs in, welder on.
You are the man.
Keep at it.
Mark, seems I saw something like that down here in S.C......on my street!!
As Tim says, you da man. Good work my friend.
It's all rainy day fun! Unfortunately, The whole opening will need to be done and that means I'll have to weld through some interior paint!
I really enjoyed the photo gallery of progress of your sub!
Ok. Had to put the wife's car in to the dealership for the 10 year, 120,000 mile warranty on the timing chains. She's on her 10th year, 115,000 and some change. Good timing. Lemony car. Second timing set!! But that's not why we're here! She get's the crew cab for a daily driver, I get the Burb!
So, the corners are welded in, but that's about it. I gave it a quick coat of rattle can so it wouldn't rust since it is rainy around here. So I figured, good time to smooth out the rear gravel pan. Pretty flimsy. So I made a plywood buck to hold it and that seems to help. Currently spending some time on that.
Today, I had the chance to run the rear seat frames down to the powder coater. They should be ready in two weeks. Maybe. He always says two weeks but it ends up being more like three. $120.00 Usually a decent deal out of him. That's blasted and coated. While I'm waiting, I'll smooth out my clamp brackets since they are currently rough cut.
Tomorrow morning, I get up, head an hour South to find me a new rear bumper and a pair of running boards. I figure it's about time. I was going to have the chrome shop do the rear bumper but it's not original to the vehicle so I have no attachment to it. I'll stick it somewhere out in the yard in case I change my mind.
Once I throw some paint on the gravel pan, I'll roll the Burb back in to the shop and smooth out the rear corners. Also, finish the passenger outer to inner wheel well. And, I have a few holes to patch between the drivers door and rear fender. That should be it for rust until I do the engine swap. That's when I'll address any firewall/floor issues.
I have a punch list on my dry erase and that list is getting smaller. Soon, it will be time to paint. Maybe even this summer!! I do have a few shows to attend. We'll see. It wouldn't bother me to roam around with partial paint!
It's amazing the difference a straight running board can make! Back to work on the gravel pan!!
Got a lot of little punch list things done. Trimmed the rear door panels so they match the side panels. Not easy since I was trying to save money and TIG together the left over pieces from doing the side panels. The aluminum wasn't cooperating but cooperated enough to accomplish the task. We'll see how it holds up.
The rear gravel pan is smooth. Just needs paint. I'm thinking I might as well take it all the way, since I'm getting close to painting anyway, and put some color on it.
Today, if I find time, I'll install a door switch for the dome lights, on the rear doors.
Seats installed. The punch list is getting smaller. Pretty soon, all that will be left to do is final paint and a few maintenance/mechanical issues.
Mmmm. Dirt and metal bits in my mouth and ears! Tasty!! All the lower bits done, one more wheel well patch! Then I start masking!!
Looks like you have a quality build going
Another video at a non-race event.https://youtu.be/sOcjVl2bZPs
Another where you can actually catch a glimpse of the Burb.https://youtu.be/ComxoWwbB1k
Had a good video of me pushing at Pomona. Can't seem to find it now.
Okay, back to the good stuff. Updates! I think I'm about done with the rear wheel well/corners. I need to let the epoxy cure a little, then coat the wheel wells with some 3M rubberized undercoating. While doing this work, since space is at a premium, I put a blanket on top of the cab and store my fenders up there. The back is full of running boards, rear bumper, and fenders for my '98 C3500. The rear wheels are on the front seat. So, we let the cats go play in the playground, as long as I'm not painting in there. Don't need any cat hair in the paint. I guess one of them had a near miss, grabbed on to the blanket to save itself, and yanked the passenger fender to the ground. No major damage. A chip on the lower edge and some deeper than surface scratches on the fender. Small gouge on the passenger door. Stuff that can be fixed when I go to do final paint.
So, I need to coat a few more brackets and stuff. Mostly the retainer for the bottom, body to running board skirt. Plus I need to second coat the rear splash apron and the brackets that support it. Then it's time to reassemble and maybe make the Twilight Cruise-in at the NHRA Museum on Wednesday the 1st. Nitro Revival, Irwindale on the 18th, maybe the Lion's event in June. Then, I might just blow it all apart and put some color on the thing! You'll know when I know and you'll probably see it here!!
Haven't chime in lately, Mark, but I can see your still getting in your 15 minutes a day!!! Good work my friend. Looking at your suburban makes me sort of sad I sold my panel about 4 weeks ago......Now i have more time to do some needed work on the 37 pickup and the 50 coupe is about ready to paint.
Thanks for the posts. I feel like I've been right there helping you all along. hehe
Lol! Thanks for the help!
No work for this last week and next week I have a show to go to on the 18th. After that, I have another in June. But I might seal the valve stems between the two shows.
Meanwhile, I'm getting a little work done on the house and started milling some intake plates for the '30 Ferd Roadster. Gonna try to build a blower manifold for the V6 that is going in it. 4-71 blower.
Been messing with the speedometer drive. Let's see if I can get the speedo to work.
Show is over. Great show but not much for me to do with the Burb. So I wrenched on the AA/FA.
Mark, I enjoyed watching the videos and seeing the progress on the suburban too!
Good stuff, thanks for sharing!
No work for a little while. Next is valve seal, and two shows. But can't do any valve work since a homeless cat took refuge in my shop to receive medical treatment and care. When this small crisis concludes, work will continue! Which means, noisy compressor on!
Shows are done for now. May be time to paint!
Been lazy lately. I did remove the drivers hood hinge and elongate the holes a little. The hood now has nicer gaps and sits a little straighter, flatter. I like it!
Still being lazy. Have been slowly addressing where the new cowl panel meets the old cowl top. Been shaping to match the hood profile. I should probably do the same for cowl to door area, but I think it's close enough to not bug me. I had planned to do some paint, but I don't feel like affording it right now. Plus, I need to decide on a better paint area. Maybe on the side of the house where things are a little wider than in the garage. Line my Easy-ups with plastic or maybe get a temporary garage. I really need to get off my butt and seal the valve stems, at the very least.
Hadn't checked in lately, Mark, so it appears the "lazy" part has hit more than you. Glad to see your still chipping away though. Remember, at least 15 minutes a day will git r done! Now, if I could just take my own advice on the coupe!
Paint? I have my coupe lined up for work in about 3 more weeks. We'll see how it goes.........perhaps you could find a "painter" with access to a paint booth and do the spraying over a weekend? I'm just full of ideas for someone else taint I. hehehe
You know me! I'll just make my own booth! It's the material I need to save my pennies for!!
Well, I ain't done much lately. (Been working on a Model A.) But I did take it out for a spin today.
Fine! I'll pull the grill and either have the bars chromed or just get a whole new grill! If I do, I'm going to match the inner bars to the interior color. That will probably provoke me to fix the paint on the inside over the wheel wells where burn through happened from fixing the rust issues on the inner to outer!
I did these a while ago but never posted pictures. So, here you go! Leftover ABS from the headliner job, leftover u-channel from the side panel job. Nutserts in the door, fancy washers under the stainless oval heads. The channel was short pieces so I TIG'd some edges together. The metal would just blow away if I spent too long on it, so the ends only got a quick zot. I like them, didn't have to body work all the little dings in that area of paneling, and they help protect the door! They also match the rest I did inside. I think I'll keep them!!
These look great! I'm working the ABS headliner at the moment. Thanks for the ideas and inspiration.
She's being used as a daily driver while I paint my Crew Cab. The engine is starting to smoke worse on start up, so as soon as I get back in to my daily driver crew cab, it'll be time to replace the valve umbrellas. I need to get the ignition wires tied up better and find a way to tension the belt better. I didn't quite place the tensioner in the proper orientation and I'm getting a squeal on AC start up. I should be able to take up some belt by going to a shorter version and using the adjusters on the alternator.