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Not sure what it is ?

Posted By: glenns towing

Not sure what it is ? - Sun Oct 27 2019 11:08 PM

Not sure what I got , but its mine now I guess. Its 9 foot long. Actually 9ft 2 inches along the rolled rail. 50 inches wide floor from seem to seem underneath, if I remember right. Tailgate has a unique GMC marking on it. Hard to see in pics. Floor still has wood in it, but topped with a steel plate. It is a 60 inch cab/axle bed. Round mismatched taillights with a steel circle around them like a steel pipe? The guy I got it from had it chained to a rear frame section and was using it around his farm as a trailer. Steps are super solid. 1 fender is really rough and probly not useable. Probly cant use either because its going on a 63 dually chassis and the fender lip to fender lip measurement is aprox. 76 inches. Im just happy to land a 9 foot box to get going on. Any help with year specific would be a great help?

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Posted By: Apache1

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Sun Oct 27 2019 11:15 PM

Trust you picked this up on the cheap.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Sun Oct 27 2019 11:19 PM

Was actually a trade for another bed. So cheap, I guess would be an under statement
Posted By: Mike B

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 01:09 AM

Nice find!

That's a 1955.2 thru 1966 1-ton 9' bed.

Good thing the steps are good as they would be hard to replace.

Fenders are the same as on the small beds and are being reproduced.

Mike B smile
Posted By: KEVINSKI

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 01:21 AM

Going from the tail gate from 55 second series to 1959
Posted By: Mike B

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by KEVINSKI
Going from the tail gate from 55 second series to 1959


To the best of my knowledge the tailgates were all the same for the Step Side boxes from 1954 thru 1967. Can you share what's different between the 1959 and 1960 tailgates?

Mike B smile
Posted By: KEVINSKI

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 02:19 AM

My 54 first series has the gmc letters in a old letter look this gate has the m underlining the g and c if that makes sense the newer ones have the gmc in more of a block letter.
Posted By: Mike B

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 02:31 AM

Kevin,
My brain wasn't even thinking about the font differences...lol dang

Thanks, that make perfect sense now!

Mike B smile
Posted By: bartamos

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 03:44 AM

That style GMC tailgate script went from 47.2 thru 1963 on Fender side. Then block letters, rectangular boarder 64 thru 87 on Fender side.
Wide Side Script 58-66. Stylized block script and boarder. (quadrilateral trapezoid) dang
Fender shape indicates 55.2-66
Rare bed size
Home made tail light cans
Original color/paint
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 01:39 PM

As always, I knew I would get the right answers on this site. Once again the wealth of info here is unsurpassed. Thanks to all. Whats funny about the color is that its the same color as the original color on the cab and clip I used from a 66 c20.
My next question is... Is there any precise "blueprints" of sorts to actually get this bed to work on a 63 GMC dually chassis that im using? My c/a measurement is correct, 60. My length is correct, 9ft. But the width of the bed itself would put it into the inners rear tires. Needs wheel wells installed into the bed area I guess?? Or, I really didn't really want togo this route, but lose the duallys and get a set of single wheels all the way around? Not even sure its an option? ohwell

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Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 10:18 PM

Well got the fenders off, lights off, cans off. And by gully the tailgate actually works. lol. The little things in life.. Bed seems to be in better shape than I thought. Abit of welding at the light, can area. Im keeping da duallys, so whatever it takes, I guess ill figure it out. Also need bed supports. And again another bridge to cross. Ideas are always welcomed.

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Posted By: Justhorsenround

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 10:39 PM

You are likely going to have to extend the fenders or tub the bed depending on where the tires are in relation to the side of the bed.🛠
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Oct 28 2019 11:24 PM

According to the tape measure. Looks like Im gonna have todo both unfortunately. Wasn't sure if there was a templet, or rule of thumb to follow. Im pretty good at winging it, but im sure my luck will run out. lol
Posted By: 59 fleet

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Oct 29 2019 03:11 AM

Looking at the rear sill brackets and cross sill brackets and board widths I think that is pre-60 GMC 1-ton. Nice find

Mark
Posted By: Hambone

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Oct 29 2019 10:58 AM

Regarding the brackets and version of bed, I think the same. Older (pre-60s) xmember and rear sill brackets.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Oct 29 2019 01:13 PM

Thanks guys.
Posted By: 59 fleet

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Oct 30 2019 01:07 AM

Another thing that might affect this project, be sure the fenders match up to the position of the rear axle/wheels. Since the bed is 59 or older and the frame is newer, they might not line up even though the 9 ft bed is correct length. I know that for the 3/4 ton trucks they did not match, I don't know about the 1 ton but it should be checked.

Mark
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Oct 31 2019 11:02 PM

Yea. im seeing some differences on lengths comparing em. One way or another this bed is marrying this chassis. Well, hopefully. lol. Im kinda wondering also what should be the minimum tire/bed clearance ? Any suggestions??
Posted By: Possum

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Nov 05 2019 09:43 PM

Nice score! nanner

Yeah the 9' beds like that weren't really designed to go on trucks with duals, so winging-it is a good option when you tub the bedsides and widen the fenders lol. As for the tire to bed clearance, I'd say whatever you think looks good/right.

Funny enough, I picked up a '60s Chevy 9' bed. Also green. Also turned into a trailer haha

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Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 06 2019 12:41 AM

What a quinkydink. Looks to be in atad better shape than mine . I guess Texas helped. Yours might not hold gravel tho. lol. Yea im winging it say the least. See what it turns into,, ohwell
Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 06 2019 09:39 PM

I'll be following you on this because I'm working on putting a TF 8' bed on my 3/4 ton 41.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 01:20 PM

Oh God, dont follow me , Im lost.. lol
Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 01:38 PM

I've been looking at bed to tire clearance as well. My brother said he would allow 5"-6". He said you'd be surprised how much distance is needed when you hit a bump with a load on it. I have a '59 one ton with a flat bed on it and it does have about a 5-6" clearance.
I'm putting a '59 8' bed on my 41 and don't want go any higher off the chassis than I need to. I do have a decent pair of fenders if you are interested and I'm about 3 hrs. from you. I plan on using the '41 fenders on mine. But we're not supposed to talk about selling anything in this section or the moderator will get mad at me. So PM me if you're interested.
Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by glenns towing
Oh God, dont follow me , Im lost.. lol


Funny! We're all lost . . . .and finding our way! smile
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 01:53 PM

I PMed you .
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 06:40 PM

Actually my pass side is junk. PS sent to ya VEW. Send pics whenever.
Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 07 2019 10:16 PM

PMed you back!
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 13 2019 12:14 AM

Ok well, moving forward. Like the bandit, "W thumbs_upe're going todo what they said cant be done" Sing it with me.. Lol. I have the bed now on the frame. I mounted a 1 by 2 inch rectangle stock on both sides of the bottom of the bed from front to back along cross members at mounting points. Front of frame towards cab got two 4 by 4s stacked. Rear only got 1. I had 8 U-bolts made. Fronts were 3 1/2 by 17 and rear were 3 1/2 by 11. The bed is sitting alitta high, but I think it going to work good. And because of the height, I didn't have to mini tub like I first thought. Got 5 1/2 plus inches of clearance at the tires. Bed height at rear is 55 1/4 or so. Rear tires are about 2 inches out from fender, but fender is just sitting there for pic purposes, not mounted. Probly close tho. Tires also sit atad forward, but acceptable for me. And wont hurt the function. I digging it really. Glad it was even close...Check out pics.

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Posted By: Hambone

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 13 2019 12:23 AM

Wow. That looks like a good fit.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 13 2019 12:33 AM

Thanks. I was actually surprised myself.
Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 13 2019 02:15 PM

Yeah, that's looking like a really good fit Glenn.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 13 2019 03:04 PM

Not perfect, but decent for what im working with. cool
Posted By: TUTS 59

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Thu Nov 14 2019 05:15 PM

The bed is a great fit, looks like it should have left the factory like that. grin
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Fri Nov 15 2019 12:27 AM

Ha I wish it did. Id be buying them up, instead of piecing it together. But it been fun to say da least. nanner
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Sun Nov 17 2019 10:41 PM

To VEW. Thanks today for the fender. Nice meeting ya. Ill post pics when it hung. Probly tomorrow? Wanted to let cha know about the difference in the step from and 8 foot bed to a 9 foot bed. Obviously there is length added in front of the fender also. I really didn't need the step anyhow. Fender is also somewhat the same color also as the rest of this monster. Couldn't of planned it any better.
400 miles = tank of gas
2 hours of conversation, knowledge, sight seeing = time well spent
1 new friend = priceless

Hopefully we cross paths again. Cant thank you enough...

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Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Nov 18 2019 01:50 PM

Was great meeting you as well, Glenn, and thanks for all of your time and valuable advise. It was just the thing I needed to proceed on my bed. But I won't be doing it tomorrow smile.
I guess that makes sense on the length of the step, given your bed is 1' longer.
Look forward to seeing your progress.
Thanks again.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Mon Nov 18 2019 11:10 PM

Well moving right along... Pass fender that I got from Vic in Va yesterday is permanently attached and in better shape than the other which I considered my good one. ha. I also had the time today to mount my newly acquired tail lights. Havent wired em yet but soon. About the only thing I need is a rear bumper that's fits this build. But that wont keep it from the road. I guess insurance and registration will help too. cool

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Posted By: VEW

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Nov 19 2019 08:37 PM

Nice!
Looks like your outside tires may sling some mud on your rear view mirrors smile
I really like the look of it!
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Nov 19 2019 10:57 PM

Yea I thought the same. lol. But I agree with ya on the look. Im digging it. yahoo
Posted By: Hambone

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Nov 19 2019 11:24 PM

I also really like the look of the truck. Cant believe the color match with the fender.
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Tue Nov 19 2019 11:27 PM

IKR. Let alone the color match with the bed before landing the fender. It all really came together great to say the least.
Posted By: Possum

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 20 2019 07:15 PM

It's coming along nicely! cool
Posted By: glenns towing

Re: Not sure what it is ? - Wed Nov 20 2019 10:08 PM

Thanks
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