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'59 Apache Suspension Options
#958038 Mon Jul 22 2013 12:14 AM
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Looking to improve the front suspension on '59 Apache; what are my options? Is going with a new Mustang II kit a good idea to save time & expense in the long run? Also want to add rack & pinion or PS. Thanks.

Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958058 Mon Jul 22 2013 01:40 AM
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How can you improve on a perfect truck suspension? Just buy a Camaro or a Mustang and sell the truck. That way you don't destroy a Camaro, a Mustang or a truck. thumbs_up


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Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958070 Mon Jul 22 2013 05:50 AM
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Very good response bartamos. I agree there is nothing to improve. Its a truck not a lexus.
Actually the thing to do is sell that truck and find one that is already goofed up with a funky independant front suspension there are lots and lots of them forsale. I've seen a few that were for give a way prices, lots of cool mods that everyone likes. And huge savings in parts costs and time in having to do all the work.

Last edited by Truckrolet; Mon Jul 22 2013 05:54 AM.

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Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958093 Mon Jul 22 2013 08:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure it is his truck to do with as he pleases. Yes, Jack, the bolt-in kits work/fit pretty good. My buddy has one that we put one on, it rides/handles like a new truck, goes straight down the highways at 70+, and has held up to daily dirt road usage.


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Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958095 Mon Jul 22 2013 08:57 AM
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Therapy costs $$$ and everyone has a preferred method of therapy, some like it on a couch and some like it in the shop with a old truck and a box of tools.......

Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
don stocker #958127 Mon Jul 22 2013 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by don stocker
Therapy costs $$$ and everyone has a preferred method of therapy, some like it on a couch and some like it in the shop with a old truck and a box of tools.......


Well said!


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Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958202 Mon Jul 22 2013 04:15 PM
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64Fleet: Who makes a "bolt in" improved front suspension for 1959 Chevy Truck 34" frame? You Mean the donor truck method from a 73-87? That conversion is not "bolt in" either. Next part not directed at anyone, just my opinion: That's the problem, they are cut, fab, narrow and weld. Would you pay a lot of money for a truck with a front end swap done by who knows who? that who knows what? What about weld strength and what kind of geometry, symmetry and alignment was adhered to? It's not a job for a back yard, wrought iron gate builder. You don't do it with a 120V mig. The therapy you get might be physical therapy at the hospital. In the 55-59 Truck Manual, there is a section on welding to those frames. Very specific warnings and methods. Most add on front suspension kits use boxing, these old original frames are not to be boxed, they are meant to twist, engineered to twist. Boxing is for hot rods. Everybody thinks boxing like Chip Foose, makes you go faster. They are trying to make the frame stronger because the load is transferred from a spread load at leaf spring hangers to a point load at the A arm. In my opinion the way to go is a complete chassis like a Fatman chassis, built and engineered from scratch. About $8500.
http://www.fatmanfabrications.co/products/1955-1959-chevy-truck-chassis/
Not bad mouthing someone who wants to have a car ride with the cool look of an old truck, they are Stovebolters too. But have seen too many butchered, unsafe at 70 MPH, jobs. I've looked at many for sale.


Watch out for careful drivers!!!
I'm away on an ego trip. Will be back on Feb 30.
I'm not an Auto Mechanic, but I play one on TV.
I charge $0.02 for every opinion and I take Paypal.
Plan B is always better than plan A, by definition.
I recommend invoking MIL-T-FP41c when machining and fabricating
I used to think beer was bad for me, so I gave up thinking.
Sometimes no nonsense makes sense, in a sense.
You can't teach a new dog old tricks.
Honk if you're Amish


Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958310 Mon Jul 22 2013 10:18 PM
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Appreciate the advise. Feedback almost unanimous to replace the worn suspension parts and stay original. That's what I was looking for.

Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
JackAttack #958357 Tue Jul 23 2013 06:22 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0thsG1v6w8

Yeah just like this deal. Its his so he can do what he wants to it. Its like cutting frames, saw that posted else where too.


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Re: '59 Apache Suspension Options
Truckrolet #958364 Tue Jul 23 2013 07:59 AM
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Or do a complete chasis swap with a newer frame. My '59 has a '87 chasis under it (with a few very minor changes). Donor truck cost me $800 with a good drivetrain that made a greating starting point for the build. I replaced all the wear points with new and it drives just like a new truck - best of both worlds.


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