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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280089
Thu Sep 13 2018 12:58 PM
Thu Sep 13 2018 12:58 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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Thinking of starting to bend up some tubing for a second row and third row seat frame. Wish me luck!

Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280220
Fri Sep 14 2018 04:46 PM
Fri Sep 14 2018 04:46 PM
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Good Luck, Mark. We all know you can do it.


1937 Chevy Pickup
1952 Chevy Panel
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1950 Chevy Coupe

52 Chevy Panel

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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280447
Sun Sep 16 2018 05:56 PM
Sun Sep 16 2018 05:56 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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Okay. I changed the exhaust tip to come out the passenger side. Didn't make sense to have hot exhaust blasting at you as you open the barn doors. Also, a couple of pics of my high output Spal fan and fitment in the engine compartment. Yeah things are tight. That fan pulls all kinds of air. Triple digit days and the AC cranked, the temp stayed right where I want it. I think I've finally licked any over heating issues. We'll see how it does going up an down a few grades in 2 weeks and next month!


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Well, my thinking went from thinking to action. Started bending the base pieces for the second and third row seat. My third row seat is non-existent. My middle seat is possibly from a later Suburban? The base never even came close to the key holes. Plus, most of the steel is in a rust arrested condition.

So, third row first. The plan here is to come close to looking like an original seat. The goal is also to make a seat that can be reversed. When we push the dragster, my partner hangs out in the back. I should actually say, he rolls around back there. Tools and all. After the dragster fires, it rolls down the track under power and parks in a designated spot. Rules are that one crew member is allowed to stay with the dragster and driver in case anything goes nutty and to generally assist the driver. That is my partner. I drive the Burb, following the dragster down the track, stop long enough for my partner to get out, then go to my designated parking area off the track. Usually, I have a phone booth challenge going on in the Suburban and have about 200 people that ride along in the thing. Video of the process minus me slowing down for my partner to jump out. That year he decided to wait until until we parked the Burb, then he would jump over the wall. https://youtu.be/5S3njY53_qk

Anyway, none of us are getting any younger. At the beginning of the year, we had an incident while playing with the actual go fast race car. A fuel altered or AA/FA. A 6 second car. We were on the track to do a maiden shake down run. We started the thing and it lurched backwards. I was on the left side of the vehicle to operate the starter, next to the front wheel. My partner, who is the owner of the car, was standing on the left side of the car to gas the injector. He was behind the front wheel. Our shakedown driver is an awesome, natural driver. And is greatly experienced. He had the forethought to have it in reverse because that was the direction where nobody was and would do the least amount of damage if something happened. Like I said, the thing lurched when the ignition caught, and the car ran over my partner. Chaos ensued. The car is stopped, on my partner's leg. The engine is running and he reaches up and kills the fuel. He's funny as he said, "Well, no one else was going to do it!" The driver couldn't because he was wrestling the brake handle and gear box. The car is stopped, and stuck in gear, on my partners leg. We finally get it off of him, compound fracture, here comes the ambulance, etc., etc. My job is the get the car, pit, camp, everything packed up and put away. Or, at least direct everyone who doesn't know what to do. Just one of those things. Like I said, we aren't getting any younger.

Long story short, my partner is healed and has a nice titanium rod down his bone. He's in his mid 60's. I'm in my mid 50's. Also, keep in mind, these guys associated with the dragster raced back in the 60's-70's. They have a little time on them too. I like giving them a comfortable place to sit. So, time for my partner to have a seat he can sit in and not have to roll around the back cabin. And that's why the seat needs to be reversible. So I'll probably make the bottom section narrower than stock, if I can. The beginnings.


http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban486.jpg
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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280468
Sun Sep 16 2018 09:27 PM
Sun Sep 16 2018 09:27 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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Someone had asked. So I made this post on Facebook. I have re-posted it here.

The issue. It is almost impossible to find rear panel trim for a Suburban. Not to mention, the aftermarket panel replacements are gray colored cardboard. I had the cardboard, which you have to cut yourself, and it almost immediately started to warp and get wavy. That changed my mind about the headliner, so I went with some 1/8” ABS. Figuring I oughta match the headliner, I changed all side panels to ABS. I even made panels for the rear barn doors to protect them from future dents from loads. Give it a couple of summers, and various heat cycles, the ABS started to get a little wavy. Not as bad as cardboard, but enough to bug me. So I started hunting for some metal trim. I found some perfect stainless stuff across the pond, but I didn’t even want to figure out how or how much it would cost me to get it here in the US! It was already going to cost me a few hundred just for the material. Then I found this stuff. Right here in the good ol’ US of A.

Aluminum. They have shiny and satin.

It comes in 12 foot sections, so it costs a bunch to ship. However, they will cut it down for $7 and then shipping becomes more reasonable. So I tried one piece. I had them cut it so it was 2 inches longer than what I needed. I believe, for the rear panel which is the longest, you need somewhere just over 7 feet. That is if you want no joints. Otherwise, if you like welding stuff, have it cut in half. I got the smaller section and used it for practice. I was worried the stuff was too brittle to bend. It’s not. So it took the 7 footer and made myself some trim. I like the way it looks! Time to get more to finish the rest of the panels. I think it even looks better than the stainless trim I got from Classic Parts for the door panels.

You’ll see the in pics where I trimmed off the back side to make it easier to bend and bend evenly. Bending any channel makes it want to flare, so after bending, a soft hammer will flatten it out again. I basically bent it around my panel, removed it to complete the bends, finessed the bends, drilled or cleared the screw holes, and installed it. Tightening the screws made it conform to the body sides.


https://www.dkhardware.com/brite-anodized-aluminum-1-8-j-channel-d18ba-product-20108.html



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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280475
Sun Sep 16 2018 09:45 PM
Sun Sep 16 2018 09:45 PM
tclederman  Online
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Jarvisburg, NC
Beautiful work/result, Mark

What will you do with the ABS-for-cardboard replacement?

I am just about ready to glue the color-matching upholstery material to the ABS, and insert this into the original channels (my metal channels/etc are good)?

Is that a bad idea?

Thanks,


Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 47 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE
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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280487
Sun Sep 16 2018 11:55 PM
Sun Sep 16 2018 11:55 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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Not a bad idea.

If I ever choose to do so, I can cover all that ABS. That's how I designed my stuff to be. But, I like the black for now.

Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1280997
Fri Sep 21 2018 02:17 AM
Fri Sep 21 2018 02:17 AM
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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1281466
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:47 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:47 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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Finished the side panel trim. I like the way it turned out.

http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban506.jpg

Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1281468
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:50 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:50 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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I'm about done with the rear seat. I still need to make tabs to mount my plywood base for the bottom. And I need to make some braces across the 110* angle. Basically, from seat bottom to seat back.

http://www.bunchobikes.com/1952suburban503.jpg
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Re: 1952 Suburban Update / MNSmith [Re: MNSmith] #1281469
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:52 PM
Tue Sep 25 2018 03:52 PM
MNSmith  Offline OP
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So Cal
Next, when I can make a little time, the middle seat! Then send both frames off to powdercoat.

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