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To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
#816957 Tue Jan 17 2012 02:05 AM
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So I have been pondering this for some time now and thought I'd get some opinions here.
Clearly the 216 in my '46 is in very, very poor shape.
It would me much cheaper and easier to just drop another engine in for a few hundred $$$.
My problem is that I like the originality of the truck as a whole, includign every item on it etc, but I wonder when enough is enough!?!

Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
AndyBauer #816963 Tue Jan 17 2012 02:22 AM
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drop a early 235 into it. much better oiling system. looks pretty much the same other than the side cover.


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Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
AndyBauer #816965 Tue Jan 17 2012 02:27 AM
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Always a tough decision Andy..... My thoughts are, how much and where do you drive your truck? Just local jaunts to the store' daily driver,or longer highways trips?
Ask yourself if perhaps a bit more power would be nice? You can still have an original look and feel with a larger displacement inline six !
But then....the old 216 is pretty cool, and worthy of a rebuild!!
A great dilemma you have..!!!??!


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helilog56 #816976 Tue Jan 17 2012 02:52 AM
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Yes- Gene Beck recommended to put a '54 235 in it as well (nothing earlier, nothing later - if I should go the 235 route).

My idea for the truck were just short distances, weekends etc
I really dont think I am interested in more power.
Would love to keep it original, butwhen looking at the expenses of rebuilding what I have, I am certain I will easily exceed $1,000. Replacement engine $350??
Take a look at these recen pictures after I removed the side cover:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjy77yRc

Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
AndyBauer #817027 Tue Jan 17 2012 04:35 AM
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the inside of my 216 looked like that also, i just cleaned it up a little degreaser and a vacuum didnt take long. i also pulled the pan and cleaned that up also along with under the valve cover. just make sure to oil it up well after cleaning. the reason they get so dirty is the breather system and lack of a full oiling system. that is why most guys go to the 235 full pressure oiling and no babitted bearings. i agree with you that the 216 is a cool engine that why i am going to triple carb mine with a split exhaust and hook it up on a stand so i can run it on occasion. just like the old hit and miss gas engines of yester years.


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Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
AndyBauer #817039 Tue Jan 17 2012 05:07 AM
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I like to have a fresh rebuilt engine. A used engine for a few hundred dollars may not be much better than the engine you have, unless you buy it from someone you know and trust.


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Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
AndyBauer #817105 Tue Jan 17 2012 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyBauer
So I have been pondering this for some time now and thought I'd get some opinions here.
Clearly the 216 in my '46 is in very, very poor shape.
It would me much cheaper and easier to just drop another engine in for a few hundred $$$.
My problem is that I like the originality of the truck as a whole, includign every item on it etc, but I wonder when enough is enough!?!

One thing to keep in mind is the titling of the truck. If it's titled using the engine number and you replace the engine, the "VIN" on your title won't be on the truck and you'll need to re-title it.


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Tiny #817238 Wed Jan 18 2012 12:06 AM
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The 216 starting in 37 and the 235 starting in 41 can boh be made very dependable if knowledgeably rebuilt and updated. The Babbitt bearings are rugged but misunderstood by most mechanics/engine builders.As far as getting an engine job for a $1000, it won't be very good and a poor investment if you expect it to be right. David

Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
David in MA #817758 Thu Jan 19 2012 03:00 PM
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You are correct. Just a few years ago a local good quality rebuilder in Anaheim, CA charged $1000 to rebuild a 235. Now the same shop charges $1800. They tell me the cost of the rebuild kits has gone up but I don't know for sure. I do know inflation is raising many prices. The same shop rebuilt my 63 Chevy 327 V8 for $1700 in November.

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Re: To rebuilt or to not rebuilt the '46 216??!?
truckcamper43 #817789 Thu Jan 19 2012 04:27 PM
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Hi Andy,
Like you, I appreciate the originality specific to the year of my truck so I can appreciate your idea of dedication to that.
I can't see your picture (I'm at work) but gather from Mo's comments that it is pretty sludgy. ???
I was wondering about the engine performance though.
Does it smoke or knock? I'm just trying to see your reason for the rebuild.

Jerry


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