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#687169 Mon Oct 18 2010 01:26 PM
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Went and looked at another 235 the other day and was surprised to see it had a tag on it saying it was remanufactured by Montgomery Ward and it gave specs, .040 bore .020 mains, and it had another I can't remember. I searched and found out some information about the different folks that rebuilt them. Dave


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homer52 #687558 Tue Oct 19 2010 09:58 PM
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homer52, Several years ago Montgomery Ward did offer remanufactured engins in their catalog and at their
retail stores. The tag you are referring to lists
the specifications of the engine after it was assembled.
The first spec. is the bore oversize. [+.o40]
The second spec. is the main undersize. [-.020]
The third spec. is the rods undersize. [-.???]
See, not too hard to understand.
All rebuilt engines need to be taged this way.

GMC Guy #687585 Tue Oct 19 2010 11:38 PM
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homer52 Offline OP
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This emgime has some of the things I need for mine, like the manifold and possibly the carb, when I check it out closer, if I can get it running I may go with it instead of the one I have, time will tell. Dave


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homer52 #687709 Wed Oct 20 2010 10:54 AM
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Back in 1963 I bought a rebuilt 216 from "Monkey Wards" and installed it in my 37 Chevrolet coupe. Sears also sold them at that time. I was just a kid and after installing it and starting it up, found that it had a cracked block!! What a let down. I had to pull it out and deliver it back to Wards for inspection before they would ship out another one. The second engine worked fine, but all of that down time sure cut into my dating schedule.


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Ted W #687720 Wed Oct 20 2010 12:52 PM
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Sears, Ward's, Western Auto, and a bunch of regional franchise stores used to offer rebuilt engines, usually at a slightly lower price, (and quality) than local shops could provide. Characteristically, those engines were the ones that needed big overbores, and lots of crankshaft grinding. It wouldn't be uncommon to find .060" oversize cylinders and a .030/.030 undersize crankshaft in a Sears or a Ward's engine. A lot of the time, they were sold as a "short block", a rebuilt lower end without a cylinder head. A customer would get a machine shop to do a valve job, and re-use his old cylinder head. His worn-out block got turned in as a "rebuildable core", so if it had major damage, there was an extra charge involved. Usually, the engines were supplied by high-volume rebuilders, and the specification tag would be applied showing the name of whatever big-box retailer was selling that particular engine. All the building was done on a "low-bid" procedure, so nobody really knew who was supplying the engines.

I've seen Dad refer lots of people to the Sears store right down the street when they balked at the price of his rebuild estimate.
Jerry

Last edited by Hotrod Lincoln; Wed Oct 20 2010 12:59 PM.

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If the price is right, guy is asking 100. I might get it just for the manifold, then I'll see what everything else looks like. Dave


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homer52 #687979 Thu Oct 21 2010 05:10 AM
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Homer I have a engine that needs a home Complete running 235 with bell housing and clutch It is a low pressure engine.

Pm me if your intersted

Jaime

Superfly #687997 Thu Oct 21 2010 06:20 AM
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Getting that engine to Alaska would be way too expensive to think about! I think he's needing a later-model engine anyway. Is yours a car or truck engine? I'm looking for a 1950 model car 235 with hydraulic lifters, or at least a block to build up. It would need to be one with the sidesaddle motor mounts, and an oil gallery drilled to supply hydraulics.
Jerry


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That's correct Jerry, I'm in Pennsylvania right now but will leave to go back North on Tuesday. I'd love to have a good running 235 but the shipping would kill me. I do also want the more modern engine. Dave


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homer52 #688106 Thu Oct 21 2010 06:02 PM
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Hot rod I belive it is from a 53 car according to my dad.

If you look at photobucket for Kccmn My user name you can see the engine coming out and my Build

I will try to get a link for you too try this.http://s735.photobucket.com/home/KCCMN

Jaime



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