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Paint factory colors #367856 Wed Jan 30 2008 03:39 AM
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dave kelly Offline OP
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I want to know the colors on 1954 & 1948 one half ton & one ton chevy trucks. Also the interior colors.

Dave Kelly

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #367920 Wed Jan 30 2008 05:23 AM
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tclederman Offline
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Dave,

Tech Tip - paint codes, names, chips

The 1954 colors are all there. The 1948 interior color(s) have often been the subject of interesting discussions/disagreements.

There were also different interior colors (in all years) for some of the different body styles (Panels, Suburbans, and Canopy Express often had different interior colors from regular cabs).

Tim


Tim
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1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #367982 Wed Jan 30 2008 08:19 AM
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I made this thread sticky because a lot of people have been asking lately. Thanks to the fine volunteer stovebolt staff, there is a good library of information in tech tips.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 4ontheFloor] #386569 Tue Mar 11 2008 10:52 AM
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AD Interior: PPG 27467 Graphite Brown Metallic is the correct color.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Czechman] #386692 Tue Mar 11 2008 07:48 PM
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Czechman] #407108 Sun Apr 27 2008 04:12 PM
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Craig /49 Panel Offline
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Is this the correct collor for a 49 panel dash/interior also.
There is so much information out there that I can't really determine if the dash is one color and the interior is another. The interior of my panel looks like a medium gray color and the dash has been painted over in Blue (ugh) and I want to go back to original color scheme. Any help would result in your increased Karma!!!
Thanks


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Craig /49 Panel] #410361 Tue May 06 2008 07:49 PM
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My truck the dash top is satin black, the interior is silver, the floor is satin black....


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #412930 Wed May 14 2008 05:49 PM
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terry Offline
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For my '53 1/2 ton I used the "chip" chart (see above) and Mr. Adler gave me a color code for the interior. I went back to the original color - Mariner Blue and the interior is a Grey matallic sheen.

No. 1018 on the line at Norwood Ohio, (Sept 1952)

Terry

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: terry] #418495 Sat May 31 2008 01:19 PM
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Craig /49 Panel Offline
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Terry can you share the color code Mr Adler gave you? Please!!!


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Greg_H] #424236 Wed Jun 18 2008 02:32 AM
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Greg,
Is there a Paint chip sheet for the 1957 Chevy?
Thank you!
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #424615 Thu Jun 19 2008 02:34 AM
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Warning: the following paint sheet is over 50 years old, and has been further distorted by scanning and by your PC and monitor:

1957-1958 Chevrolet Trucks Exterior Colors



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #431488 Thu Jul 10 2008 08:17 PM
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 53moneypit] #431491 Thu Jul 10 2008 08:30 PM
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Boltergeist
Most cars, trucks and years are covered there, EXCEPT 1948-1956 Chevrolet trucks (and also nothing for 1949-1956 GMC).


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #441070 Tue Aug 12 2008 10:18 PM
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I was wondering what color grey do you guys suppose the interior of my 1954 is. I see from the chart it could be pulsar grey click on link below and go to my album... go to pop down and pick interior colors album does the grey ring a bell pls...Peter

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Petmil/54/3100] #441989 Fri Aug 15 2008 05:48 PM
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Pulsar Gray (PPG: 93-72130) was the standard color for 1954 Suburbans and it was the deluxe color for all other (cab body) trucks (panels/canopies had a different gray).

Pearl Beige (PPG: 21122; Dupont: 93-72389) was the standard color for cab-body trucks in 1954.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #456845 Mon Sep 29 2008 04:50 AM
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Don G. Offline
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By putting in GM Paint Colors from 1947 - 1966 you will come up with the orginial factory paint color chart used by GM. Which happens to be Diztler aka. PPG. other companys also had colors there too. Acme had some orginal paint for the factory also. Du Pont, RM aka Renshed-Mason. This site has the orginal codes for the Lacquer based paint. Hope this helps some of you.
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Denny Graham] #468479 Thu Nov 06 2008 12:44 PM
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Denny,

If you select the second 1950 on their list there are interior colors including one for the steering column. There is a mistake in their list of years... they have 1950 listed twice but the second one is 1951.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #475027 Mon Nov 24 2008 11:22 PM
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JD Bob Offline
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I want to tailgate on this question. Does anyone know of links to original paint color chips and info for 58/59 Chevy 1/2 ton's like presented here?

Thanks,

Bob

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: JD Bob] #475045 Tue Nov 25 2008 12:27 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #476644 Sun Nov 30 2008 01:53 AM
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32fire Offline
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having real trouble finding what thistle gray looks like for my caps cant even find a picture everyone has chrome or mags but i think its an almost white color am i right i hope someone can help thanks my truck is not far from being finished at last

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 32fire] #477104 Mon Dec 01 2008 04:44 AM
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Boltergeist

It is a very light gray color; however, it is not "almost white". If you are interested, I can take a picture tomorrow with a white car next to Thistle Gray (used in 1954 on painted bub caps and on the inner bars of most painted grills).



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 32fire] #477107 Mon Dec 01 2008 04:51 AM
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Boltergeist

It is a very light gray color; however, it is not "almost white". If you are interested, I can take a picture tomorrow with a white card next to Thistle Gray (used in 1954 on painted hub caps and on the inner bars of most painted grills).



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #477158 Mon Dec 01 2008 07:50 AM
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32fire Offline
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that would realy help i cant seem to find any pictures of trucks with the painted caps thanks if you have the time

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 32fire] #477447 Tue Dec 02 2008 02:53 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist

white card on the left - Thistle Gray on the right (sorry about the leaf and dirt)

This color was mixed by PPG in urethane enamel paint (DCC). This shade of gray is lighter than the Anvil Gray that was used on 1954 bumpers.



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #477556 Tue Dec 02 2008 06:56 AM
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32fire Offline
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thanks for the help

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #482739 Tue Dec 16 2008 04:49 AM
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Big Tan Offline
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I have a question on '64 Fawn, or Desert Beige. The order sheet on my '64 called it out as Desert Beige but that color was discontinued in 1963. The same 528 color code became Fawn in 1964. None of the color panels Ive seen (AutoColorLibrary, etc.) match the tan color. Any one else run into this before?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 32fire] #485657 Tue Dec 23 2008 08:59 PM
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Hey, how much of the interior should be painted?


just-a-hacker


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: just-a-hacker] #486193 Thu Dec 25 2008 06:16 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist

Just about every piece on interior parts should be painted (except a few parts of the pedal assemblies, depending on the year).

What year are you referring to (you do not mention a year nor does your profile show a year)?



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #486606 Fri Dec 26 2008 09:49 PM
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'49 chevy , interior to be Champagne , do I paint the area behind seat the same as interior?


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #491572 Fri Jan 09 2009 10:04 PM
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Pete52 Offline
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Hi, just left a sher. williams auto paint shop in northlake il. near My house and He showed me the paint colors from 52 3100 trucks it showed both ext and int original color chips. Hope it helps, Pete

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #504627 Wed Feb 11 2009 04:25 AM
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oli1954 Offline
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I need to paint my 1954 half ton truck. Inside the forum I found the following color codes:

COLOR NAME
Juniper Green DUP 93-72001
Engine Gray (235) DUP ??
Pearl Beige DUP 93-72389
Pulsay Gray DUP 93-72130

Nobody in Mexico can use those. Does anybody have "modern" Dupont color codes, which match these (as close as possible)? Thanks
Olaf Voss

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: oli1954] #561740 Mon Aug 03 2009 07:53 PM
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Storey's Garage Offline
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Hello

Does anyone know the correct PPG code for the interior on a 1951 GMC 1 ton?
I too haven't had much luck finding codes.
the guide on this site says it is Pecan brown (20930), but my PPG rep cant use the code, for some reason. my rep contacted ppg's library and they are producing a formula from their archives. they described the color as "chocolaty", Does that sound right?? the original paint we have is a gray brown, but probably very faded... most of the parts suppliers claim that their "champaign" is correct for chevy and gmc's...???

any help would be greatly appreciated...


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Storey's Garage] #566351 Tue Aug 18 2009 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Storey's Garage
Hello

Does anyone know the correct PPG code for the interior on a 1951 GMC 1 ton?
I too haven't had much luck finding codes.
the guide on this site says it is Pecan brown (20930), but my PPG rep cant use the code, for some reason. my rep contacted ppg's library and they are producing a formula from their archives. they described the color as "chocolaty", Does that sound right?? the original paint we have is a gray brown, but probably very faded... most of the parts suppliers claim that their "champaign" is correct for chevy and gmc's...???

any help would be greatly appreciated...



I dont know if this helps but I have a book on old chevy's and the "PER-MAX Chevrolet Commercial colors (1939-1951)" Shows only one brown color and its "Sun Beige" 2U801

Here is the chart for that specific color. I guess its what mix PER-MAX uses or used. hopefully this helps.



Parts/ Base/ Colors/ Counter setting
100 TE-02 H. H. Mix 100
568 TE-91 White 668
178 TE-74 Ferrite Yellow 846
108 TE-81 Burnt Sienna 954
46 TE-41 Lamp Black 1000

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Odd_Bolt] #610904 Mon Jan 18 2010 12:59 AM
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Oilrag Offline
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1951 - 1954 Commercial Color Chip Sheet #1

from the
AutoColorLibrary
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1950-chevrolettruck-pg03.jpg

Information and paint chips with numbers
Ditzler Color Division
Pittsburg Plate Glass Co.


-Tom

1950 Chevy 3100 w/ 1956 235
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #616548 Wed Feb 03 2010 10:34 PM
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do you know where i can find interior colors and exterior colors for a 60


What In the Heck was I Thinking when I did that!!!!
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: nightmare resto] #624979 Tue Mar 02 2010 12:03 AM
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Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #626567 Sun Mar 07 2010 01:20 AM
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Oilrag Offline
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Hey nightmare,

Did you try the autocolorlibrary.

Here are the 1959-1961 colors,
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1960-chevrolettruck-pg01.jpg


-Tom

1950 Chevy 3100 w/ 1956 235
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: just-a-hacker] #649315 Mon May 24 2010 08:34 PM
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I'm in Mass too w/ a 1948 Thriftmaster. The original paint seems to be Windsor blue. Last owner re-did the ext to black and kept the int "Champaign" (I'm uncertain of the technical name for this color). With that, behind the seat still has a dark red primer with champaign overspray. Is this your situation?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #659696 Sun Jul 04 2010 08:35 PM
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Monroe McKill Offline
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I would like to have a paint chip showing the colors of blue for 46.


Monroe McKill
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Monroe McKill] #659747 Sun Jul 04 2010 11:45 PM
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Monroe - go here, select make and year by red arrow

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #659889 Mon Jul 05 2010 05:04 PM
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Thank you. It seems to be Export blue.


Monroe McKill
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Monroe McKill] #666465 Fri Jul 30 2010 08:34 PM
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aggie jon Offline
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Question,

The TCP website has been referred to several times in this thread and in others. My question is have any of you guys used the Restoration Shop paint and is it quality? Its not tremendously cheaper than locally and not sure what shipping costs will do to the total price. Thanks

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: just-a-hacker] #674907 Thu Sep 02 2010 04:48 AM
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49pete Offline
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I'm glad i found your post. did you get any codes/colors for your 49? i have the same year and model and have had a devil of a time finding a code for the "Champagne" thanks!

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #692458 Sat Nov 06 2010 02:27 AM
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does it make that big of a difference if I stick with original as apposed to a hot rod red or something as far as resale? How do I see what my original color was? I think it was orange but can I tell by the serial #?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: classicnewbie] #692467 Sat Nov 06 2010 03:15 AM
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"curb appeal" might have some influence on sales Jeff - but close inspection of quality is what'll count wink if you're worrying about resale value already you better rethink your plan .... no way to tell by the numbers what color it was, what makes you think it was orange? the firewall should have been body color, you might carefully pick away at the edges of that black and find original color under

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #692686 Sun Nov 07 2010 03:18 AM
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Hi Bill, yes.. everywhere I dig deep it is orange. I just cant find myself wanting to match that color. I have very little rust and few dings to get out so wanted to spend time getiing it prepped properly. I am replacing all the rubber seals. Taking out the planks on the bed and removing the interior to get as close as I can to a frame off type job. I will probably do the engine compartment later as I would like to pull it when I go through the motor. There are a few (smaller than half of a dime) sized rust holes in the floor board by the battery panel and small half inch lines rusted through where the bed meets the planks. Is it best to cut it out or can you fiberglass or through bead of weld on it?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: classicnewbie] #692695 Sun Nov 07 2010 03:44 AM
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no problem with making it any color you want .... might be able to weld up pin holes if the area isn't corroded too thin and can be cleaned to shiney metal, but bigger areas really need to be cut out and new metal welded - don't waste your time with fiberglas

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #703960 Thu Dec 16 2010 06:19 PM
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Hellomrwilson Offline
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Hi,
I didn't read through this entire thread so forgive me if this information is redundant:

Paint Reference Website

I was able to easily search for paint codes for my '59 Apache 3200 truck.
There's a wealth of info on this site and I thought I would share.


Jerry


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Hellomrwilson] #710135 Sat Jan 08 2011 09:39 PM
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smaiocco Offline
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Hi,

I'm a new member with a basic question. I have a 1958 Longbox Apache that has a paint code of 700-A. The "700" is jet black but does the "A" mean anything?

I'm trying to replicate the original factory colors. At this stage, I'm assuming that maybe the truck was all black except for maybe the spears on the bed sides which might have been white or Ivory. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.


Many thanks,
Steve

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #710149 Sat Jan 08 2011 10:35 PM
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squeeze Offline
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Bombay Ivory was always the contrasting color on 2 tones [not white], but your A indicates a solid color, not any 2 tone pattern, so the fleet bed rockets would be black as well .... they were only different than the sides on some 2 tone patterns .... B, C, D, E indicate different 2 tone patterns

and welcome to the shops Steve, get us up a story in the Welcome or DITY forum with some pics of your project, we all like pics wink

Bill

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #710385 Sun Jan 09 2011 08:43 PM
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Bill,

Thanks for the quick reply. Now I have to decide if I want a solid black truck; some of the two tones are fantastic looking but I'm a bit of a purist so I may have to stick with black.

I'll try to get some pictures up soon.

Thanks again,
Steve

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #716262 Sat Jan 29 2011 10:37 AM
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Hi Bill,

Follow-up question- for the 700-A Jet Black color code, would the grill area and rear bumper have been painted white or was EVERYTHING black?

Thanks so much for your input,
Steve


Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #716312 Sat Jan 29 2011 04:52 PM
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standard production grill, bunpers and hubcaps were always white

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #716337 Sat Jan 29 2011 06:34 PM
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Bill,

Another dumb question- was there a "non-standard" option and what would be the differences? My truck seems to have had more chrome then a standard equipment model (around windshield, windows and rear of cab) or at least that's what someone else told me.

I have chrome inner section for the grill which houses the turn signals. So would the section behind that be white or is it the inner section itself that is sometimes white and what's in back of it is body color?

Also, am I correct in assuming the white would be "Pure White" from the 1958 color charts?

Thanks again,
Steve

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #716342 Sat Jan 29 2011 06:47 PM
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there were a number of individual chrome options, hubcaps, grill, headlight rings, bumpers, interior knobs and the front/back glass seal inserts as well as trim around the side windows ... if yours had the side window trim there'll be mounting holes evident, the front/back pieces are in a slot in the rubber that's not in the standard plain rubber seal .... some of those were available as a group package, especially the window chrome

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #722486 Sat Feb 19 2011 08:06 PM
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What is the grille and bumper color for a 60 apache, I see alot of white but I know like on my gmc it's actually a lite cream or almond color, is chevy the same?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: todjob2000] #724050 Thu Feb 24 2011 08:07 PM
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Another paint question, on a non trim non custom 60 1/2 ton are the wheels the same color as the truck or black?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: classicnewbie] #732403 Wed Mar 23 2011 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by classicnewbie
does it make that big of a difference if I stick with original as apposed to a hot rod red or something as far as resale? How do I see what my original color was? I think it was orange but can I tell by the serial #?


If the doors are original to the truck, you can take the handles off and the original color should be under there unless it's had a full restoration that erased that option. That's how I found out mine.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #734081 Mon Mar 28 2011 09:44 PM
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Hi Everyone

My 54 pu is a light turquoise but I don't see it on the charts.


Thanks Gary
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1957 Thames 300E,
1967 Austin A60 Pick-up,
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: custardtart] #743717 Sat Apr 30 2011 07:49 PM
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It seems like the rear bumper on my soon to be Jet Black 700-A 1958 Apache is the only part that should be painted "white". What "white" would be original for the bumper?

Also, any recommendations for type of paint since the bumper will be subject to more wear by stepping on it?

Thanks,
Steve

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #743721 Sat Apr 30 2011 08:09 PM
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Steve - all the trim on your 58 should be white if it's not chrome, if the front one is chrome, the back one should also be chrome .... both bumpers, the grill, headlight doors, hubcaps and the tailgate lettering were "Artic Beige", an off-white .... if you're concerned with use wear, powder coat it

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #743839 Sun May 01 2011 11:26 AM
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Thanks, Bill. Much appreciated.
Steve

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #744189 Mon May 02 2011 10:34 PM
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My 51 Chev 3100 has two bolt holes in the exterior of each rear fender right above the rear wheels. Have seen trucks of the same vintage with a fender support in that area that runs up to the top of the fender and I suppose that bolts to the bed.
Anyone have a source for those parts?
Thanks,
Tex Chev 51

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: TexChev] #744190 Mon May 02 2011 10:40 PM
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Fender bolt holes. Opppps gonna take me a while to get familiar with the system. Will post to another topic.
Regards,
Tex Chev 51

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #764998 Sun Jul 24 2011 01:58 AM
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Can anyone tell me the color used on the interior of my '57 panel? Looks like some kind of grey.

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it is 'some kind of gray' Kojack, the lighter one was called Marble Gray and the darker [dash top, column, and floor] was called Charcoal - don't know of any modern formulas to match

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #765008 Sun Jul 24 2011 02:34 AM
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Thanks Squeeze, I was afraid of that. I just took off one of the small inspection covers and it looks like it leans towards the beige side of grey when compared to the aerosol can light grey I have. Tractor Supply has "Ford Grey" enamel for tractor restoration which may be a good match. I'll take the cover with me tomorrow and check more closely. The fire department had painted the dash black and red and the rest of the interior white.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Storey's Garage] #767993 Tue Aug 02 2011 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Storey's Garage
Hello

Does anyone know the correct PPG code for the interior on a 1951 GMC 1 ton?
I too haven't had much luck finding codes.
the guide on this site says it is Pecan brown (20930), but my PPG rep cant use the code, for some reason. my rep contacted ppg's library and they are producing a formula from their archives. they described the color as "chocolaty", Does that sound right?? the original paint we have is a gray brown, but probably very faded... most of the parts suppliers claim that their "champaign" is correct for chevy and gmc's...???

any help would be greatly appreciated...



I have a '52 chevy 3800 and the interior color looks to be 'sun beige.'

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Kojack] #778125 Mon Sep 05 2011 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
Thanks Squeeze, I was afraid of that. I just took off one of the small inspection covers and it looks like it leans towards the beige side of grey when compared to the aerosol can light grey I have. Tractor Supply has "Ford Grey" enamel for tractor restoration which may be a good match. I'll take the cover with me tomorrow and check more closely. The fire department had painted the dash black and re
d and the rest of the interior white.
OK, the Tractor Supply (Valspar) Ford Grey paint is the closest match I've found yet, I'm going with it. It comes in aerosol or quarts which will be pretty convenient.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Kojack] #779074 Thu Sep 08 2011 11:38 AM
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I went to my local PPG dealer to order up some "artic beige" but the fellow couldn't find the formula in PPG. Based on an internet search, I thought it might be "8290" but he said that is a bright white, which doesn't sound right to me. The 8290 also seems to be a "cameo white" but I wouldn't expect that to be a bright white.

Anyone know the PPG # for artic beige?


Thanks,
Steve

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: smaiocco] #781042 Thu Sep 15 2011 09:14 PM
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I called the PPG Color Library and they said that "Artic Beige" is no longer supported/available but that "Adobe Beige" (#22137) is a good match.

Steve

interior paint [Re: dave kelly] #787426 Mon Oct 10 2011 12:05 AM
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Does anybody make a rattle can paint thats close to the Graphite Brown Metallic?

Re: interior paint [Re: joes1952] #804337 Wed Dec 07 2011 05:21 AM
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Great thread. It was real helpful identifying the color of my Dads 62 Fleetside. Brigade blue with Pure white top. I am going to paint my 63 the same color combo.(unless I can find a 62 Fleetside) ;-)


In such a khonstant state of khaos I dont know what project to work on first.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #807770 Sat Dec 17 2011 10:31 PM
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My husband has given me the task of paint search ! He is restoring a 1949 GMC 1/2 ton pickup and would like to know what the original offferings were for exterior paint ? Is the Techtip site you posted what I would use for this info ? Thank you ! Robin

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: LC] #808555 Tue Dec 20 2011 02:58 AM
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Previous owner said that my 47 belonged to a city in californias fire department as a chiefs truck. There is a hole in the roof where a light or siren may have been mounted. There is evidence of red paint underneath the current oxidized green and surface rust. Common sense would be that the original color would be fire engine red, but that sounds pretty generic for a paint color.

The interior is a darker color like a grey or black. Kind of hard to tell since I have not spent much time in the cab because most of the work has been at the brakes and engine so far.

I had the seat recovered in a black vinal just to have something nicer to sit on rather than springs..

I would like to bring this truck back to the former service truck that it once was. Maybe after I drive it around for a while when I collect parts along the restoration way.

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 5/8 ton] #828820 Wed Feb 22 2012 10:24 PM
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I know this has been beat to death and I have read everything I can find on this site and others about the Charcoal color for the interior of my 56 Task Force truck. I spent 3 hours at the Dupont paint dealer trying to match a pristine spot of the paint off my steering column that was under the dash. I found a color that looks to me like a good match, not perfect but really close. I am getting a sample and going to paint it on the column to see just how close it is. I'll post some pictures in a couple days if it looks to be a good match with the paint code.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: kenny3100] #830279 Mon Feb 27 2012 05:43 PM
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First try didnt work out, it was too dark. I will try again this week. I just want to find something thats pretty much a standard color that works without a bunch of special mixing.


Kenny Martin
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1956 Chevy 1/2 Ton
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Kojack] #830288 Mon Feb 27 2012 05:59 PM
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Flxible Offline
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Ken - your 56 should be the same interior colors as Kojacks 57:
Originally Posted by Kojack
OK, the Tractor Supply (Valspar) Ford Grey paint is the closest match I've found yet, I'm going with it. It comes in aerosol or quarts which will be pretty convenient.

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Flxible] #830601 Tue Feb 28 2012 04:03 PM
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Bill, is this the dark grey or the light? I'm trying to come up with the charcoal, the darker? I will go by Tractor Supply and check it out. Thanks


Kenny Martin
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1956 Chevy 1/2 Ton
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: kenny3100] #830620 Tue Feb 28 2012 05:04 PM
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ahh, sorry Ken, I didn't twig you were matching the column, the Ford grey [which I've used too] is the light

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Flxible] #832572 Tue Mar 06 2012 02:00 AM
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After much trial and tribulation, I have come up with the best I can do on matching a close color to the charcoal interior color for my 56 1/2 ton. Here are two pictures showing the best original paint I had when I disassembled the truck on my steering column. I painted a strip in two places on the column and it is pretty close, so this is what I am going to go with. It came from the local Dupont Automotive Paint Store and the code is DS023.

http://s1142.photobucket.com/albums/n603/kennymartin2/Charcoal%20Paint/


Kenny Martin
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #833197 Thu Mar 08 2012 12:38 AM
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I would like to find the paint code for the white grill and front bumper colors for my 1966 c10. also this has the wrap around rear bumper that looks like it was gray?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: longroof] #839702 Thu Mar 29 2012 08:36 PM
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Hello,
I am looking for the paint colors for a 1950 GMC 100 pickup. I have spent hours looking for hte paint codes online only to come up empty handed. It seems most sites have everything but the 1950 GMC's. Has anyone come across them in their experience?
Thanks

Tiffany

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: GMCgirl] #839787 Fri Mar 30 2012 02:08 AM
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Tim
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1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
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- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
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GMCgirl Offline
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Thanks Tim!

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #844248 Mon Apr 16 2012 04:34 PM
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I have a 1958 Apache color code 746D. I found a reference that said this is Ivory upper and Granite Gray lower. Can someone confirm that as I can't find this information on the color chart. Also it's a stepside so would that mean that the roof top is ivory and the rest gray? How about the dash. Sorry, I'm new to these trucks and need help to get the color scheme correct.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Blubau] #844254 Mon Apr 16 2012 05:08 PM
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Flxible Offline
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yes, Granite Gray lower, Bombay Ivory upper, which could have been either just the roof above the drip rail [most common], or include down to the bottom of the windows ... the interiors were gray, with most of it light "Concord gray", and the column, wheel, and floor dark "Charcoal gray", and the dash top being low gloss Charcoal .... and welcome to the garage, drop a note to the Welcome forum and tell us about it!

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UnklRod] #845338 Fri Apr 20 2012 11:06 PM
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Hi guys - I was wondering if anyone knew the color combinations for 1937 gmc half ton. I'm getting close to paint stage and was either going to go all black or one of the combinations.
So far I've seen Brewster green with black fenders. The strip along the cab and hood I've seen as either black or apple green. I've also seen all back with red strip, though I'm not sure this is originally a paint scheme.
If anyone has knowledge of these schemes I'd be grateful. There is mention on different websites of 8 or do different options.

Matt

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ball48pu Offline
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check out this web site www.cs.siena.edu/~lederman/truck/advancedesigntrucks/colors

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: ball48pu] #868153 Fri Jul 20 2012 04:25 PM
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Someone was asking about rattle can options. My local paint shop has aerosol cans in which they can put what ever color of paint you want into. I have a couple of cans floating around the garage now. I can forsee not having evrything together to paint all parts of the interior when it gets painted. Ill be able able to touchup or finish small parts with same color as the rest of the interior.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #899034 Sat Nov 24 2012 06:14 PM
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is there any documentation about what parts of the interior are to be what color (or chrome) such as the dash vs the rest of the interior, or the glove box, or the steering column, floor, back, seat frame, seat material, etc?

How do you know what the interior paint scheme should based on the exterior paint? i believe mine is windsor blue, but it might mariner blue.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #899048 Sat Nov 24 2012 07:40 PM
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What make, model, year tuck?


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- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #899050 Sat Nov 24 2012 07:41 PM
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Sorry thought i had it on there.

1952 Chevy Pickup 3100.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #899319 Sun Nov 25 2012 08:32 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had ever heard anything about a woman naming the paint colors for General Motors back in the 1930s and 1940s? I read a magazine article from the early 1960s saying a woman from outside GM was picking and naming the colors? Anyone know any info on this?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #899369 Mon Nov 26 2012 08:55 AM
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Can anyone tell me if the "hood latch panel" and the "grille lower support" panel (connects grill to both fenders and bottom of radiator) are both supposed to be black (flat or semi-gloss)? or what color they are supposed to be?


1952 Chevy Pickup - 3100 in process resto
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #899394 Mon Nov 26 2012 11:45 AM
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Tom R Offline
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Semi-gloss black.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #902014 Fri Dec 07 2012 10:52 PM
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My 58 has a color code of 712A, Kodiak Brown. The cab is obviously two tone, but there is nothing on the data plate indicating this. The two tone scheme also does not conform to either of the schemes that have been mentioned earlier in this thread. For some reason the upper color does not go down the front pillars like it does down the back nor does it go across the top of the doors. I have not been able to find anything about any "special" paint schemes. Have I missed something?

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Flxible Offline
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Pilot Mike - the 'A' is what indicates a 2 tone - the roof color on 2 tones doesn't go down the front pillars unless the whole truck above the 'feature line' was the upper color, there was a 2 tone that had only the roof as the upper color, and another [less common I think] that included the back pillars - see both of those here .... there were a few more than 2 schemes used, including special orders

Bill


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #902028 Fri Dec 07 2012 11:51 PM
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Bill

Thanks for the insight. Turns out that mine is the less common one that includes the back pillars. In fact the scheme on mine is identical to the one on the red and white Cameo. My top is white, how do I find out what shade it is?

Mike


Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #902035 Sat Dec 08 2012 01:01 AM
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sorry, I misremembered Mike, looked at the color sheets I have, the 'A' should actually indicate a solid color - the 2 tone [w/Kodiak Brown] for a standard cab was 738 .... but yours does look factory, maybe it was a dealer change requested by the purchaser - the white would be Bombay Ivory for the Brown 2 tone .... what I came up with for Ivory on mine was either Chrysler K Pearl White #B8172A1 or 83 Mazda Aurora White #WN45571 [Centari]

Bill


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"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #902045 Sat Dec 08 2012 06:14 AM
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No worries Bill. Requesting a color change would have been out of character for my grandfather. Personally I think the scheme looks a bit "choppy" especially with the colors being brown and white. Looks great on the red and white Cameo though.

Mike

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 58ApachePilot] #907272 Sat Dec 29 2012 11:32 PM
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UncleFranks 56 Offline
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I am looking to paint a 1956 3100 Stepside in its original color - red. I have found conflicting (or confusing to me) info on what the red is. On some site's charts it calls out Cardinal and on others it calls out Matador. Does anyone know the correct color and/or a site that can be trusted to be accurate?
Thanks, Joe

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: UncleFranks 56] #907281 Sun Dec 30 2012 12:22 AM
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Cardinal Red for 1956 trucks

I think that Matador Red was a 1956 car paint code.


Tim
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1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #907513 Sun Dec 30 2012 08:39 PM
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Mike B Offline
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I have both color chips and have the fire wall on my fire engine still painted Cardinal Red from the factory. The two colors are VERY close with Cardinal Red leaning 1/2 a shade closer to orange and Matador Red being a 1/2 shade closer to Red...both of them can look orange in different light. If you painted one truck Matador and another Cardinal Red, I believe judges at a show would have a hard time telling which was correct.

Matador Red is made with Light Red, Fast Red and White.

Cardinal Red is made with Light Red, Dark Red and Black.

Mike B smile

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Greg_H] #926634 Mon Mar 11 2013 05:57 PM
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Ritchie 54 Offline
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Greg

The links don't work for the color chips. Any way you can post those again?

Bob


Bob

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1954 5-Window COE aka "THE BEAST"
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Ritchie 54] #926645 Mon Mar 11 2013 06:20 PM
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I ain't no paint guy, but these modern paint codes for 1956 Chevy Truck Cardinal Red may help ...
> CLICK

Same info for all 1956 GM colors ...
> CLICK (slow load)


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #926674 Mon Mar 11 2013 07:32 PM
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Greg

The links don't work for the color chips. Any way you can post those again?


That link died with webshots. Sorry.

Check your e-mail and see if that helps any.

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #929722 Fri Mar 22 2013 10:27 PM
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1956 3100 Stepside - did the factory paint the tailgate lettering white or did they leave it solid body color? If they did paint the letters, would they be the same Arabian Ivory that is on the bumpers and grill or was they another white used? Body color is Cardinal Red.

Similar question for the hubcaps, which are white with a black round center and a white bow tie in the center of the black. Would they also be Arabian Ivory or another white?
Thanks, Joe

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #929918 Sat Mar 23 2013 06:08 PM
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I was totally surprised at my 57 LCF 370. Seems all the original paint is there and never repainted anywhere. I saw some old brochures, and here is the kicker: My firewall and the outside of the truck is RED. There is factory wax pencil or chalk writing all over the firewall, on top of the RED. The door panels are BLUE and WHITE. Door jambs is where RED and BLUE meet. The dash is BLUE with a BLACK top. The underside of the cab is BLUE. The steering wheel is BLUE. They sure did not care about color coordinating back then.
Some guys tried to tell me its been repainted, but the colors look like the brochures and there is still a factory (warning) sticker on top of the dash, in front of the steering wheel.

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Mike B] #930804 Tue Mar 26 2013 08:51 PM
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Mike, thank you for the info on Cardnial vs. Matador for my 1956 3100 on Dec 30. The truck was my uncle's who bought and drove in it LA. I have a shop working on it out there (long story) and so far I am happy with the project and their work. Today he said he was concerned that the Cardnial was too orange and that I should get a local (I'm in PA) paint shop to mix up some Dupont 2411H so I can see it. My questions is will our samples be the same and even if so, how will I tell if it looks like what Cardnial looled like in 1956? From your post it seemd that you had some experience in this area and with these colors. I hope you can provide some insight.
Thanks, Joe

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #930881 Wed Mar 27 2013 08:00 AM
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Hello - new to the site, and was just curious on everyones thoughts on non-factory paint colors for original restoration. I realize that if it isnt the same color as it came from the assembly line that it isnt really original, but what about variations? There are a lot of nice colors on modern cars and othet itmes that would look great on an old AD pickup.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #945785 Sat May 25 2013 04:22 PM
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Anyone have a handle on the Canadian Paint codes? I have a paint code: 134 and a trim of 394. Any ideas?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Dukk1300] #945792 Sat May 25 2013 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukk1300
Anyone have a handle on the Canadian Paint codes? I have a paint code: 134 and a trim of 394. Any ideas?


What year?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #945825 Sat May 25 2013 08:36 PM
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1951

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #955639 Wed Jul 10 2013 02:34 PM
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search for autocolorlibrary.com I think its called. It will pull up a paint chip deal.


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: jerryjoe] #955640 Wed Jul 10 2013 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryjoe
Hello - new to the site, and was just curious on everyones thoughts on non-factory paint colors for original restoration. I realize that if it isnt the same color as it came from the assembly line that it isnt really original, but what about variations? There are a lot of nice colors on modern cars and othet itmes that would look great on an old AD pickup.

It doesn't belong on a true restoration. If you plan to never ever sell it go ahead. If you do plan to sell it, the non correct color just makes more work for the person that wants original. And should honestly reduce the selling price by $8,000. or more, a good paint job costs that at a min, especially when you have to remove all the parts to do it correctly, not a macco quicky.
You mentioned "original restoration" if your gona not have original color then don't worry about anything else being original either.

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #955655 Wed Jul 10 2013 04:01 PM
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I doubt that the Autocolor Library has many/any Canadian GM color sheets.

I have 1954 Canadian exterior color chips. I do not know if those colors were used in 1951. I'll look for your codes.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #955657 Wed Jul 10 2013 04:07 PM
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Boltergeist

There were standard colors and there were special-order colors (just about any color could be ordered from the factory).

One would never know if a color might have been an "original" special order color. Choose a 50s color code and say your color was a possibility, if anyone is nit-picking.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #955658 Wed Jul 10 2013 04:11 PM
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Boltergeist


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #960362 Wed Jul 31 2013 10:24 PM
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So I read all 12 pages of this thread and still didn't get the interior color for a 1950 AD. My web site says this:
1947-52 Cab Interior Colors PPG 3163 DDL3163 DuPont C8306
But I wouldn't mind this being confirmed by someone else.


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
In the Stovebolt Gallery
The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #960376 Wed Jul 31 2013 10:55 PM
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The Truck Data Books are confusing on interior colors. It is not clear if the interior colors are for cab trucks or for Sedan Delivery.

Here is some 1950 truck information from Chevrolet Service News (September 1953).

PPG Color Library might might have a formula - the Tech Tip at a link in the 2nd post in this thread has a phone number for PPG Color Library (I have not checked that number recently - call PPG and ask for the Color Library).


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Greg_H] #990351 Wed Dec 04 2013 12:46 AM
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Hi Greg. Do you have any color chips for a 41 AK?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #990377 Wed Dec 04 2013 02:19 AM
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for a start try here Farmone

Bill


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"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Flxible] #991670 Tue Dec 10 2013 02:23 AM
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Thanks Bill,
I believe this is what I was looking for; colors match and reinforced by Baltimore assembly plant only, which is where this truck was assembled.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1006521 Wed Feb 12 2014 09:02 AM
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Want to keep the original colors on my 64 C10 but upgrade them to modern pearls or kandy colors.. The bottom would be a seafoam color and top white...but want to do an off white.....what would u do as the other interior color along with the seafoam color. Dont what white or black !!!

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1035210 Thu Jun 12 2014 07:25 PM
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I have a Canadian 1957 GMC Big Back window, factory V8 with Hydramatic tranny. It is missing the paint code badge, does anyone know the options for 2 tone color scheme? I have the Stainless Trim around the cab and glass. Does the two tone go inside this trim and is the roof colored diferently from the body as well? Also Interior color as well. I am doing a factory resto on this.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1052864 Sat Aug 30 2014 05:48 PM
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Ok i have a 56 cameo code is 748 original paint is white and omaha orange under the 1 repaint in early 70s my question is why only one code is it a cameo thing or what

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1052874 Sat Aug 30 2014 06:21 PM
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Ok i have a 56 cameo code is 748 original paint is white and omaha orange under the 1 repaint in early 70s my question is why only one code is it a cameo thing or what

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1052878 Sat Aug 30 2014 06:35 PM
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Thomas, the single number specifies a particular combination of U [upper] and L [lower] colors, a solid color paint code would have an "A" at the end, applies to all models - I don't have the complete 56 color sheet set, but I'd say 748 would indicate the combination and pattern you've found

Bill


"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1062216 Tue Oct 14 2014 03:02 PM
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I found a good site for matching old paint colors for my '51 3100. It's tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary. I think you will find it there. good luck. dree

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1062224 Tue Oct 14 2014 04:07 PM
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Boltergeist

On a "regular" 1956 truck, the 748 code was used for Cardinal Red upper color and Bombay Ivory lower color.

That same Cardinal Red was an interior color in 1956.

Are those the same colors and Upper/Lower as on a Cameo?


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1062255 Tue Oct 14 2014 06:07 PM
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yes Tim, '56 Cameos were Cardinal Red and Bombay Ivory as the standard, with various other combinations as RPO's, but NO Omaha Orange was available on a Cameo .... I suspect the orange detected is actually a faded out red found with the sander wink but I doubt Thomas will be back, having posted a for sale for his basket case

Bill


"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1074131 Fri Dec 19 2014 02:28 AM
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my 1948 truck is Seafoam green on the exterior and Champainge on the inside. Is this the correct colors? i can not find the code for the Champaigne.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1074138 Fri Dec 19 2014 02:42 AM
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1948 Chevrolet truck?
Seacrest Green exterior color?

Someone else will have to provide information on the "Champagne" color/code.




Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1078168 Fri Jan 09 2015 05:41 AM
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1950 GMC 1/2ton FC101 ....

We were able to find a good number for Morat Green, but could someone help me out with a number for Venitian Yellow for the cab stripe, please ?

Thanks in advance !

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1079718 Sat Jan 17 2015 05:03 AM
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Here is updated PPG Brewster Green as of 2015 for 1946

The "J" handwritten numbers in the second column are the currant conversion.


[IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/mgb1234/Mobile%20Uploads/image-20.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1079721 Sat Jan 17 2015 05:19 AM
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It is spelt/spelled venetian yellow.

Call PPG and ask for their Color Library department. They might have a formula or an "offset" match (an equivalent color formula).


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1080726 Thu Jan 22 2015 04:59 AM
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You are absolutely correct Tim, and my most humble apologies. As it turns out, my painter was able to come so very close if not dead on in the meantime, but I do appreciate the help!

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: squeeze] #1089676 Thu Mar 05 2015 09:41 PM
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Squeeze
thank you for the information,
Very helpful
Has anyone tried used the TCP Lacquer product?
I was leaning towards base coat clear coat product.
Thank you in advance

David


1951 Chevy 1/2 pu
Restoration/stock
Deluxe Cab
Five window
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 49pete] #1096256 Wed Apr 08 2015 08:53 PM
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49 3100 interior
thought I had the right item, but nothing in code sheets show champagne and the body shop is scratching their heads
champagne??
Forest green exterior

now there must be something in this thread that explains it

Also trying to find pictures and description on interior paint line transition from exterior


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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1096257 Wed Apr 08 2015 08:59 PM
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49 3100 interior
thought I had the right item, but nothing in code sheets show champagne and the body shop is scratching their heads
champagne??
Forest green exterior

now there must be something in this thread that explains it

Also trying to find pictures and description on interior paint line transition from exterior


just-a-hacker


'49 3100 before '99
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1096271 Wed Apr 08 2015 11:12 PM
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Boltergeist

just-a-hacker,

GM did not use the name "champagne" for an interior color in 1949.

http://www.1954advance-design.com/Web%20images/TDB-colors-pages/TDB-colors-1949.jpg


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1096486 Thu Apr 09 2015 09:27 PM
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What is the original color called for the 1949 3100 interior with Forest Green exterior ?/


just-a-hacker


'49 3100 before '99
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1096487 Thu Apr 09 2015 09:28 PM
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Also, would like to know where the transition from exterior to interior colors should be ?
Pictures would help

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Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1096502 Thu Apr 09 2015 10:55 PM
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Boltergeist

At the edge of the outer/exterior sheet metal.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1096507 Thu Apr 09 2015 11:12 PM
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I have a few pictures of a 50 in this album

...link...

Just a garage rattle can resto but I followed the existing cut line for the interior


Re: Paint factory colors [Re: DADS50] #1097348 Tue Apr 14 2015 12:43 PM
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Thanks, that helps

That is the color I need for interior, what is it called

You have original heater ? neat


just-a-hacker


'49 3100 before '99
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: just-a-hacker] #1097367 Tue Apr 14 2015 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by just-a-hacker
Thanks, that helps

That is the color I need for interior, what is it called

You have original heater ? neat


not sure what the original color is called.
maybe

Medium Tan Metalli-Chrome

Dark Tan Metalli-Chrome
http://1954advance-design.com/Advan...%20Tech%20Tip%20--%20Paint%20Colors.html





I just used spray bombs, color number in the picture link above.

the heater is a Harrison, I don't know if its original but its been in the truck since the early 70's. Harrison is one of the heaters that would of been used in the 50's

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100252 Thu Apr 30 2015 04:24 PM
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I am in the process of restoring my l953 chevrolet 3100 pickup which I purchased new. The exterior color is Juniper Green and paint numbers are easy to find. However, I am having a difficult time in getting the codes for the interior color which I believe is called a champagne color. Will appreciate any assistance as I would love to have some mixed and move on with the project. Any assistance will be appreciated.
Billy Gibson


Restoring 1953 Chevrolet Pickup (5 window) that I purchased new.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100300 Thu Apr 30 2015 11:37 PM
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AD Interior: PPG 27467 Graphite Brown Metallic
Heater Paint: Hammerite Rust Cap (Hammertone) Bronze

1947-1953 yes? 8 pages and each truck was the exact same interior color for those years, and only one reference on page one of this thread for the interior. I can see the exterior being in question, alot, but these interiors and heaters were all the same color.


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
In the Stovebolt Gallery
The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Deve] #1100322 Fri May 01 2015 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Deve
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1947-1953 yes? 8 pages and each truck was the exact same interior color for those years, and only one reference on page one of this thread for the interior. I can see the exterior being in question, alot, but these interiors and heaters were all the same color.

All interior colors (standard cabs) were the same for 47-53?

What do you think GM was referring to in this Chevrolet Service News? 1950 and part of 1951 might have had some parts painted a different interior color.

1953, supposedly, had another (different) interior color.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100325 Fri May 01 2015 02:28 AM
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That was probably due to different vendors providing similar items. No telling what their standards and tolerances were. I am thinking not very stringent at the time. Thats what makes this so maddening! I am sure you can find evidence that things were not standardized everywhere, but what was the standard?

So, paint your interior blue if you wish. But the standard, and the largest amount of trucks from those years were painted the same. The problem comes in when your usual Stovebolter asks what color is my interior supposed to be. Do you really want to muddy the water with 'some' parts might have not been made to the standard? What we need is to be able to answer the guys question. How do you suggest we resolve it?


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
In the Stovebolt Gallery
The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: Deve] #1100328 Fri May 01 2015 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Deve
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But the standard, and the largest amount of trucks from those years were painted the same. The problem comes in when your usual Stovebolter asks what color is my interior supposed to be. Do you really want to muddy the water with 'some' parts might have not been made to the standard? What we need is to be able to answer the guys question. How do you suggest we resolve it?


Are you proposing a one-size/color fits all? 1947-1953 interiors? No matter what GM listed as color names?

Do you think that GM changed the names but not the actual colors?

Are you proposing not to "muddy the waters" because that allows a simple but perhaps incorrect answer?

I propose that we provide original information and let posters know what many other people (thoughtful people like Woody, Denny, others) have chosen to handle this confusing situation.

No need to preach or cajole or insult. Just provide information.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100335 Fri May 01 2015 02:54 AM
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Deve Offline
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Yeah, pretty much. At least every original truck I have ever seen, 100's in the junkyards all over a 4 state area are all the same interior color with a few exceptions. I always attributed that to a designer spray can. If GM changed the colors, my bet it was because some vendor didnt adher to a standard. Did that get lost somewhere in your thinking? We dont freakin know! So in this particular thread.. a place where your genius belongs..

I am a new member of the Stovebolt and I want to know what color was original in my 47-53 Chevy truck. After all of these pages, isn't it about time to resolve the answer?

NOTE: TRUTH IS... I have two cabs to paint interiors on. Both are 1950 although I have a 1953 waiting after that. I would like for someone to just come out and SAY it! And I am one of the first members here! And I still don't know!


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
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The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100336 Fri May 01 2015 03:02 AM
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Boltergeist

The GM/Chevrolet A-D interior color names/codes are in the Tech Tip shown 8-pages back.

Those names/codes came from these GM documents.

If someone has the Truck Data Books from the missing years, please scan and post the "color Combinations" pages (1948, 1950, 1952 - Brad?).

People can and should paint their interiors whatever color/colors they like. But, we should be careful about saying/posting that the interior color/colors were the same from 1947-53.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1100338 Fri May 01 2015 03:14 AM
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Deve Offline
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Am I reading that 50-53 are the same? So yes, lets get this resolved. Hopefully we can come up with 47-49. Interiors only of course. Not to be a pain, but thats EXACTLY what I am trying to be. I could take you around the salvage yards and everywhere you go, the interiors are faded, but they are all the same color originally. You can just see it. I know a 49 that I owned was the same as 1950 and I also have a 48 that is the same. No idea on 47.

Tim, I dont care what you think of me, I admire your persistence in the mission to find facts on our trucks. Its something we all need. Thanks.


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
In the Stovebolt Gallery
The Think Tank
More info and tips at Deve's Technet
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1103881 Thu May 21 2015 03:04 AM
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Great News! The elusive interior paints for the task force truck is easily available:
1955-1959 dash\ upper cab paint: Comanche Gold Mettalic - DUCO 92863
1955-1959 underdash\lower can paint: Charcoal - DUCO 73650

http://www.paintscratch.com
Under 1959>Chevrolet>all other models

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1105763 Sun May 31 2015 10:13 PM
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I think the real problem is that there is clearly a paint color identified for later AD's (Hysheen Gray/Sheen Gray Metallic) in Official Documentation from Chevrolet that does not seem to be remembered by anyone left in the whole wide world who can describe it or produce a paint chip/formula/DuPont-Duco # for a match. It almost certainly has to be a cooler, lighter gray color than the earlier standard.

I have seen several AD interiors that did NOT have the warm gray/champagne/tan cast in their interiors and they look more visually pleasing to me than the usual bronzecap whatever that everyone seems to spout the party line about. One of my cabs has such a color on the dash. I am holding a piece of windlacing right now that matches that dash and it is not tan or bronze in any way.

If anyone can produce a paint chip or documentation as to what this "Sheen Gray Metallic" was, they would do a great service to Stovebolters everywhere.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1126978 Wed Sep 30 2015 12:52 AM
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53Cowboy Offline
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I always have used paintref site

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: 53Cowboy] #1126980 Wed Sep 30 2015 01:09 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
Originally Posted by 53Cowboy
I always have used paintref site

53Cowboy,

Do you have a link to the interior color names/codes shown at the paintref site?

Originally Posted by stoveboltgator
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If anyone can produce a paint chip or documentation as to what this "Sheen Gray Metallic" was, they would do a great service to Stovebolters everywhere.

Stoveboltgator,

The Dupont and PPG code numbers are shown in this Stovebolt Tech Tip - 47-55 truck colors. Even with those codes, PPG and Dupont might not have "formulae/recipes/mixture" for those colors. A phone number for PPG is given in the Tech Tip.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1164647 Tue May 10 2016 04:24 AM
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mick53 Offline
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What an awsome post. I am leaning toward the maroon and black for my 53. What do you think of putting a little very fine metalic in it. Porshe makes a metalic black that is really cool. can you add that type of metalic to any paint. If I buy it from Porshe they want my wife and my dog. I like my dog.


Old enough to know better, too young to resist.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1164659 Tue May 10 2016 05:47 AM
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Hey Mick, where at in N. Indiana? Michigan City guy here. I'm using Honda Dark Cherry Pearl as my color, a nice dark maroon with some pearl in it. Mike

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: bluedot38] #1164779 Wed May 11 2016 01:08 AM
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mick53 Offline
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sounds nice I'll check it out. I'm in warsaw. Hopefully you don't work for the state there. At least on the inside.


Old enough to know better, too young to resist.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1173158 Sat Jul 09 2016 08:18 PM
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Early stages of '51 3100 restoration. Anyone know factory paint codes for frame, hubs,etc ? Did the engine compartment use exterior color ? Thanks.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1173169 Sat Jul 09 2016 10:04 PM
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frame - semi-gloss black

hubs? - brake-drums? or hub caps?

The entire outside of the cab was the same color (that includes the firewall).

The inner fenders were semi-gloss black


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1173174 Sat Jul 09 2016 10:59 PM
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bamabaja Offline
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"Hubs". 😁 Sorry, rebuilding Bronco also and obviously on that side of brain ! Brake drum paint color. So everything underneath is black ? Trans, driveline, etc ? Thanks for help

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1173249 Sun Jul 10 2016 06:43 PM
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riverdancer9 Offline
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I have an old Carryall and wish to maintain the rusty patina. about 3/4 of the truck is still Forester Green, but faded. So I have a few questions:

1) Is there any place to get flat paint, instead of glossy enamel?
2) Any hints on covering some of the rusty areas and getting to a match of the original patina?
3) I plan on sanding down to metal, priming, and then trying to feather in the new paint into the original patina

Thanx so much!


Lisa

1952 Chevy Carryall in completely original condition
Pulled out of a barn in Colorado high desert
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1174080 Fri Jul 15 2016 11:57 PM
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Did 51 Chevy 3600 come in two tone paint scheme ? Could buyer order any factory color, or fenders always black ?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1174086 Sat Jul 16 2016 12:21 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
There were no Advance-Design two-tone factory standard paint or Regular Production Option paint choices from 1947-1953.

However, it was supposedly very common for commercial vehicles to be special ordered with non-standard, non-RPO paint schemes.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1174096 Sat Jul 16 2016 01:05 AM
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Thanks, Tim. Afraid that was the answer. Wish my Father hadn't bought his 51 in green ! But, green it will be.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1174098 Sat Jul 16 2016 01:24 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1182953 Sat Sep 17 2016 02:24 AM
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JNewberg Offline
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Hi all-

I’m a newbie here, but I have read through enough to know that this topic bangs around the discussion boards. Sorry to repeat it here, but I have been through other sites, a few major parts catalogs and also GM’s research and media people & not gotten great answers. I know I’m not the first.

I am frame-off restoring a late 1951 3100 to really-great-but-not-pristine condition. I am stuck on interior colors and could use some guidance; sincerely thank you very much in advance.

- I believe there were two main colors inside the cab, one for the overall dash/doors/columns and then one for the steering column/steering wheel (I already have the Hammerite for the heater box). Were there more main colors?

- I think the modern colors I’d need mixed are:
o Steering column/wheel: prefer PPG #s, but can match off DuPont 8540
o Everything else: PPG 27467 (or DuPont 260-55257)

- I have seen Tim’s Tech Tip on paint codes and am confused by the *medium* tan metalli-chrome vs. *dark* tan metalli-chrome. Is one considered more ‘usual’ for 1951? Was the dash a darker color than the rest of the interior?

- For the steering column/wheel, is there an entry on Tim’s Tech Tip page for that color? Pecan?

- I bought some pre-mixed interior paint from a name catalog and it went on as dark olive. Ugh. If I decide to try someone's premixed colors again, does anyone have experience with the two interior paint colors at Jim Carter or the two at Chev’s of the 40’s? You can message me privately if that’s more appropriate.

Sorry for the repetition & the long-windedness, but thank you for the input. If I can lick this problem, it is off to assembling this beauty!

Thanks & kindest regards.

-Jay

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1183164 Mon Sep 19 2016 01:24 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
Can anyone help Jay with the name and/or code for the steering wheel color on a 1951 Chevrolet truck?



Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1183724 Thu Sep 22 2016 05:00 PM
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For someone in the future, my digging leads me to believe that Jim Carter has the right colors for the mast/wheel & the rest of the interior on the '47-'53 series (and different/correct interior colors on other series, too). I'm going with it.

Thanks.

-Jay

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1184767 Thu Sep 29 2016 06:35 PM
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Buds53 Offline
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Does anyone have the interior color codes/charts for 1953 3/4 ton trucks? I am trying to confirm the blue color used in 3600..Thanks

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1184802 Thu Sep 29 2016 10:48 PM
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tclederman Offline
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Buds53,

There was no standard/optional blue interior color on 1953 USA Chevrolet trucks. 1953 DUPONT Chevrolet Truck Color Bulletin/Sheets

There has been lively discussion on modern paints/codes that match the original colors.

1954 was the first year for interior two-tone optional colors.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1184911 Fri Sep 30 2016 06:01 PM
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Buds53 Offline
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have you heard of anyone using "turquoise metallic" for restoring the blue color interior on old chevy truck?

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1184915 Fri Sep 30 2016 07:53 PM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
A previous owner(s) might have used any interior color that they liked (or, that they had on hand) to paint the interior of any year truck.

As posted above, in 1953 there was no blue interior color from the factory, so you might want to post links to pictures of your interior. People might have opinions on what might match the color that you have.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1184935 Fri Sep 30 2016 09:46 PM
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Buds53 Offline
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Thanks - paint shop sent me a chip and it seems to be a good match.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1186132 Mon Oct 10 2016 12:08 AM
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clyde55 Offline
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I need some help here. I have a 55 GMC first series and am trying to pin point the exterior color. In the paint charts are they calling it a 55 or 54? I am bolter 13667 Clyde55. The interior cab color would be a plus.

Thanks for your help.
An email will work also.
spectrum@whidbey.com

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1186140 Mon Oct 10 2016 01:01 AM
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tclederman Offline
Boltergeist
Just to be pedantic, and to explain the GMC charts, GMC did not list their New Design (47-55) trucks by year. GMC listed them by series: Z series was 1954/55 New Design GMC.

I think these are 54/55 GMC exterior colors.

I'll see if I can find the PPG "off-set" color formulas for the two interior colors. They did computer color matches for us that were quite good. (another interior photo)


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1194571 Sat Dec 10 2016 01:37 AM
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doyle1950 Offline
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I had this posted in interiors a while ago and didn't get any reaction so I've deleted it and posting here. I had the heater fresh air panel scanned and custom paint mixed to match. I think it's a mighty fine looking colour for the interior! Can't wait to get it into the sunshine to see if it's got that grey/ brown/ colour that seems to be a great topic of discussion!
I used a little better than 1/2 gal of paint and sprayed 3 coats. The left over paint I'm going to get put into rattle can for touch up if it's not beyond it's shelf life.

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums...int%202%20008%20-%20Copy_zpsatycwbeq.jpg

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums...%20Paint/Paint%202%20007_zpseqmyxpok.jpg

Here's a before picture.
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums...nterior%20Paint/IMG_3258_zpsw9mdfzcb.jpg


1950 Chevrolet 5-Window Canadian manufactured 1-Ton with Dump Bed / Hoist
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More pix on Photobucket
You will never stop learning new things, no matter how old you are.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1194747 Sat Dec 10 2016 11:56 PM
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Weeds Offline
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This thread has a beginning but apparently no end.




Weeds

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1196394 Thu Dec 22 2016 04:30 AM
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DR.K Offline
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Anyone have the color code for GMC engines?

Brown Truck [Re: dave kelly] #1217542 Tue May 16 2017 07:56 PM
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Norcal Dave Offline
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Brown doesn't look too bad on an AD- Brown '50

Last edited by Norcal Dave; Wed Jul 26 2017 04:06 PM.

Dave

Clutch head screws have stolen too many hours from my life....

1950 Chevy 3600 (resto-something) - the work resumes...
https://goo.gl/photos/8t5mLuj4JZebvGq49

1963 GMC Widebed Custom

1951(?) GMC flatbed that is now a flower garden:
https://goo.gl/photos/H79pvKhHLxjNiR149

1968 Chevy II Nova- not running, waiting for me to finish the '50 3600
https://goo.gl/photos/Dh7q4pt3WSkKjjFr9
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: mattf] #1250621 Fri Jan 12 2018 05:56 PM
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Truman Offline
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My father owned a new 37 chevy pick up truck. It was blue on black. I am told the blue, which was a darker blue, is export blue. TCP global at tcgobal.com claims to have the original export blue. if you have followed stovebolt you will note I am looking for someone to give me a picture of a vehicle with the TCP export blue. I think the blue you are considering is a light blue. I bought a sample from Jim Carter of boatswain blue which is almost black. I dont think it was used unless it was a solid color. TCPs smallest container (for a sample) is a quart. I already bought Jim Carters boatswain and I have no use for this. If you find a vehicle painted export blue, please share a photograph with me. Please stay in touch. I would like for mine to look exactly as my dads the day he bought it.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1250637 Fri Jan 12 2018 07:27 PM
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tclederman Offline
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Here are two shades of blue for 1934-46 Chevrolet Truck

During that time, Export Blue was a "fleet/commercial" color and Boatswain Blue was the non-fleet/non-commercial truck color (I might have them mixed up).

Here are examples of those colors: http://paintref.com/paintref/model/blue_ChevyTruck.shtml

Here are 1936 Chevrolet Truck color names.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1297274 Sat Feb 02 2019 04:02 PM
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Any one know where I can find the Canadian color 237 Airway Blue for a 1952 Chevy truck from the Canadian plant in Oshawa , it is a Dulux code DU-126. Can`t find anything that shows me the original color. ....Thanks

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1302826 Wed Mar 13 2019 12:13 AM
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midlifer Offline
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To add to this fray, I just went through a bit of a saga with my painter over the interior color for my 1950 Chevy 3100. His supplier could not match the PPG 27467 code to anything made today, and I tried a bunch of the other codes from this site and nothing came up.

So I bought a can of the Rustoleum 7272380 and we did a spray-out of it. I then went to the Sherwin Williams color chips and their color 45800 is pretty darn close. A bit lighter and more to the gray side than the brown side than the Rustoleum, but in the sunlight it was almost indistinguishable and I was tired of the trips to the body shop. The perfect being the enemy of the pretty darn good, I decided to go with it. Will post pics when done.

So there is another color code you guys can add to the quiver.

Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1303577 Mon Mar 18 2019 03:46 PM
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raw3844 Offline
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I am not sure if this was asked/answered already but I will give it a shot;
My paint code is 510AA. On the paint reference material,I have 510 is listed as both torquoise and torguosie poly.

Are they one in the same?
What does the AA mean?

Thanks,
Roger


raw3844@gmail.com
1964 Chevy C10 fleetside LB original/unrestored
1966 Chevy C10 stepside SB restomod in progress
1970 Chevy C20 fleetside LB restored
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: dave kelly] #1303582 Mon Mar 18 2019 04:22 PM
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Boltergeist
Roger,

Start a new thread.

Post the make, year, model truck.
Post the Vehicle Serial Number ID-code.


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban - part of the family for 48 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic - part of the family for 14 years
Z-series (54/55) GMC 350 (2-ton) COE - now part of Dave's family
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engine are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler.
Re: Paint factory colors [Re: tclederman] #1303648 Mon Mar 18 2019 11:38 PM
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Hi Tim,
thanks for the help!! Just posted a new thread.

R

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