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Fuel with ETHANOL!
#331197 Wed Oct 31 2007 08:48 PM
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Hi guys/gals. This is my first post. I have read a lot in the past year on my 52 Chev 1/2 ton and have had great answers. I need to know what is the answer to my fuel question? I live in Minnesota and almost all gas staion have a 10-15% ethanol (Corn) added to the blend. I do add lead to my fuel at each fill and 4 oz of Marvels Mystery Oil also. I don't know if I can find "non oxygenated fuel" anymore. Is it safe to burn the ethanol? I have the 216 engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Racer Bolter 14354

Last edited by Racer; Wed Oct 31 2007 08:51 PM.

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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Racer #331205 Wed Oct 31 2007 09:12 PM
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The ethanol shouldn't hurt your engine. Potentially, ethanol can cause problems with some rubber pieces. If your fuel lines are all metal there shouldn't be a problem.

Comment subject to correction by more experienced ethanol users.

By the way, welcome to the 'Bolt.

Last edited by Jeff Nelson; Wed Oct 31 2007 09:13 PM.

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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Jeff_from_KY #331223 Wed Oct 31 2007 10:18 PM
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I wouldn't put ethanol in your 'bolt. Your fuel pump and any other rubber in the fuel system would pay the price. FYI, unless you're working your engine hard for extended periods you don't need to add lead (or MMO) to your gas. Unleaded is just fine.


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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Tiny #331232 Wed Oct 31 2007 10:46 PM
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Thanks guys. I just didn't want to hurt anything. I read that the ethanol can clean out a gas tank but I had already cleaned it out. It has been running fine since I got it running in March and no problems so far. I would think it would have done something by now. Ethanol is in all our gas in Minnesota so everyone here must be running it.

Last edited by Racer; Wed Oct 31 2007 10:47 PM.

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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Racer #331284 Thu Nov 01 2007 12:55 AM
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Most parts being made now as replacement have the ethanol safe rubber in them, and hoses can be easily replaced with ethanol safe materials. I'm in Illinois, we have the same issue, all of our gas is 10% ethanol, too. I've been running it in mine without any issues. I have heard of issues with the aluminum in the carbs, as it is corrosive to aluminum, and some issues with corrosion in the feul tanks, but at 10%, I don't think it would be an issue.


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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
LONGBOX55 #331289 Thu Nov 01 2007 01:01 AM
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I have also read from sevral sources in years past that 10% ethanol shouldn't be a problem. It's the 85% ethanol blend that will kill the rubber parts quickly, assuming you can even adjust the timing to run on it. All I've ever read says that anyhting under 15% ethanol shouldn't cause problems.


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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Lumbergh #331295 Thu Nov 01 2007 01:11 AM
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Thanks, I also just found a site with ALL of the gas stations in Minnesota with Non-Oxygenated fuel. Maybe your states will have a list slso. My list comes from the Minnesota Street Rods Association and the web site is www.msra.com then go to FEATURES, Non-Oxygenated fuels.
I think it will be a good list to carry along just in case. I also plan on running some of the good stuff through this fall yet. Thanks a lot.Racer


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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Racer #331494 Thu Nov 01 2007 12:50 PM
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Here is some information:

http://www.hagerty.com/ethanol/

Avoid the deathanol if you can.

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Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
carbking #331574 Thu Nov 01 2007 04:20 PM
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Ethanol in this quanity will do well nothing really except support your local agriculture economy. In states where farming is a good chunk of there economy ethonal has become a standard. In modern builds they should do fine espicially if you have rebuilt the fuel system. In older cars everything is metal and at the 10% concentration won't corrode it any faster then gasoline. So basically fill it up and forget about. The concentratio is so small that it at least in my experience I didn't even half to ajust the carb. So please don't call it deathanol. I believe your website when I see certified studies and ends in something other then .com .
And yes I have farming in me blood so I am slightly bias smile

Re: Fuel with ETHANOL!
Delux #331580 Thu Nov 01 2007 04:44 PM
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Delux - with all due respect, deathanol is increasing our business (carburetor repair kits and carburetors) by some 40 percent annually. And headaches by a much larger percentage.

Why do I call it deathanol??? Do some independent research on the byproducts of the burning of alcohol AND its water solubility! There are other harmful pollutants other than the 3 currently controlled by the Federal Clean Air Act; however, since they are not formed by the burning of gasoline, they are not currently controlled as they have not previously been a problem!

And yes, I also have farming in my blood (grew up on a farm, and many in the family still farm). My farming background does not mean that I have to ignore facts. Deathanol, like MTBE, is a very bad idea; and like MTBE, time will be the proof.

Jon.


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The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify
If you truly believe "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!
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