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Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241058 Thu Sep 20 2007 06:42 PM
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Wrench Fetcher
Hello Forum!

I am planing to convert my original single master break cylinder to a dual cylinder with a booster.

I found the firewall & the frame mount kits and I would like to know which one you can recommend.
If I choose the firewall mount kit, can my E-break remain in the position under the steering wheel?

1/2 t Fleetside 59

Links:
firewall: http://www.classicperform.com/Store/1947_59_Trucks/4753FBBD.htm
frame:
http://www.classicperform.com/Store/1947_59_Trucks/4754BBD.htm


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241059 Thu Sep 20 2007 09:40 PM
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Apprentice
Apachepride,

My descision was a matter of looks. I don't like the looks of the firewall mounted set-up cluttering up the engine compartment.

I went with the original mounting position (using a set-up I got off of ebay from Pirate Jacks). It mounted up really easy. I wish I could tell you more, but I have not gotten it much past that point yet.

Good luck.

Carl


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241060 Fri Sep 21 2007 07:17 AM
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It's really a matter of looks. I chose a firewall unit for easy access.


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241061 Fri Sep 21 2007 01:27 PM
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i am with cbrackle, i have the frame mount and if done right how often do you need to access the unit? ron


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241062 Fri Sep 21 2007 01:48 PM
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A frame mount booster does indeed clean up the engine deck. I use it on my hotrod. You need to understand that a frame mount has several issues not associated with the other type. Things like master cylinder might be mounted lower that the brake cylinders and the brake lines may be higher than the master cylinder. These issues are addressed on several good web sites so you need to review them for info on such things as bleeding the brakes.


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241064 Fri Sep 21 2007 02:21 PM
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Shop Shark
I used the frame mounted setup on my 55.The only drawback is if you have to add brake fluid to the system,as when bleeding the brakes.I used a Lokar floor mounted E brake,in my truck.Mainly for the nostalgic look.It looks good right beside the Lokar shifter.I see no reason why you could not retain the original Ebrake lever.

Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241065 Fri Sep 21 2007 02:30 PM
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Shop Shark
Just a tip ,
If you go with the firewall mount Booster ..save yourself a headache down the road and FAB up a backing plate a bit bigger than your booster on the engine side and add some support bars .....on the inside.
in my expierience the stock firewall is too thin and after yrs of pushin the pedal you will get stress cracks an eventual fail of the firewall metal .
Xtra support is needed to carry the weight of the booster/master and stress of shovin the brake pedal to the floor for STUPID HUMANS that WILL pull out in front of you .
just a heads up
Tim


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Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241066 Fri Sep 21 2007 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by WE b OLD:
i am with cbrackle, i have the frame mount and if done right how often do you need to access the unit? ron
Often enough for regular maintenance, right?? A low master is an indicator for leaks unseen else where!! Don't run out of fluid when you need it the most!!

Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241067 Fri Sep 21 2007 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by SW_Radial:
Just a tip ,
If you go with the firewall mount Booster ..save yourself a headache down the road and FAB up a backing plate a bit bigger than your booster on the engine side and add some support bars .....on the inside.
in my expierience the stock firewall is too thin and after yrs of pushin the pedal you will get stress cracks an eventual fail of the firewall metal .
Xtra support is needed to carry the weight of the booster/master and stress of shovin the brake pedal to the floor for STUPID HUMANS that WILL pull out in front of you .
just a heads up
Tim
The CPP unit he provided a link for, comes with a nice firewall / dash support bracket. I'm going firewall because I don't really build a truck so I can show other people what's under my hood. I build to suit me. Easy access is the name of the game for me.

Re: Firewall or Frame Mount Power Brake Booster?
#241068 Fri Sep 21 2007 10:31 PM
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Frame for me. I didn't like the additional fabrication needed to install the swing petal, plus I like a clean firewall. After all, we have to crawl under the truck to check the differential fluid, etc.
If one worries about access to the MC, cutting a hole and making an access to service it would be easier than changing brake petals.
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