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#201216 Thu Feb 16 2006 02:24 AM
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Some one told me today that I shouldn't run unleaded fuel in my 53 truck because it will burn the valves. I was sure it was the other way around, that you shouldn't put leaded fuel in an unleaded engine.

Who's right???


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#201217 Thu Feb 16 2006 02:32 AM
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I believe you are but I could be wrong

#201218 Thu Feb 16 2006 02:37 AM
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I have heard the same thing about my 61. My friend was telling me that since my truck was built in the days of leaded gas it had "soft" valve seats. He claimed that newer vehicles designed for unleaded fuels have "hard" valve seats. I am not sure if he is right or not but he was sure that he was. I run unleaded gas in my truck and have for years, no problems yet. I put fuel conditioner through it once in a while, but nothing serious, just cheap NAPA stuff. I do that about every oil change or so. I am not sure if it does anything but I feel better about it.


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#201219 Thu Feb 16 2006 02:39 AM
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Leaded fuel, if you could find it, will plug the catalydic converter. Running unleaded fuel in an old engine could theoretically could burn a valve or seat because they used the lead as a lubricant. You would have to run along time with an overlean condition to do it though. I'm still running original engines in most of my trucks with no problems,
Scott


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#201220 Thu Feb 16 2006 02:40 AM
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Heard the same things, was told the valve seats would burn out and should be replaced with newer type seats (not the valves)

#201221 Thu Feb 16 2006 03:20 AM
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Resto book I read said that the old seats are soft, but if it ran on leaded for any length of time, the lead is absorbed into the seat and provides lubrication for a long time. If you rebuild the head or use an NOS head with no milage, get the seats replaced with hardened ones.


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#201222 Thu Feb 16 2006 03:24 AM
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Thanks Guys... I was not planning on doing any internal work on the engine.

Since this truck will likely be a weekend cruiser and not a daily driver I think I will take my chances. It has 83000 on the odo so it probably had a few gallons of leaded fuel in its day. not too worried then.
Rich


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#201223 Thu Feb 16 2006 03:32 AM
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I've been running my 1966 250 for over 11 years on unleaded, and it still runs fine.

#201224 Thu Feb 16 2006 04:44 AM
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If you have concerns about this, there's a product I use in my big block Vette called max lead 2000. It adds actual tetrethyl lead and boosts octane. For the occasional driver, you can add some every 3rd or 4th tankful.
http://www.maxlead2000.com/


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#201225 Thu Feb 16 2006 05:20 AM
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I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I burn regular unleaded in my '59, not a problem yet.

Although, I would not burn Ethanol.


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