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#1502188 Fri May 26 2023 04:04 AM
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Should the 4 bolts and 2 nuts that secure the manifold to the head have lock washers? Mine don’t and I’ve had a problem with gasket leaks after a few thousand miles.

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Did you retorque them after the engine heated up? My 235 doesn’t have lock washers but good mechanical practice calls for a retorque.


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'Bolter
My 216 doesn't have any, either.

Recently replaced an exhaust manifold on another vehicle. Torqued it to specs and then took it on a 20 mile drive. I re-torqued it upon return. Definitely a little more movement in the bolts after the heat-up process.


1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
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I replaced the gasket probably 8 years ago and don’t remember if I re-torqued them or not. I’ll do it this time and see what happens. What should they be torqued to?

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216/235 specs as follows:

Manifold center clamp bolts: 15-20 ft lbs
Manifold end clamp bolts: 25-30 ft lbs


Did you use any exhaust sealer with the gaskets?


1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
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My 250 didn't have lock washers. What type of gasket are you using? The 250 has a lot of weight pulling on the gasket, so its not surprising they leak. When I change gaskets or manifolds, I hold the weight up with one hand and tighten all the uppermost bolts first, then the lower bolts. Even though they are almost straight across, this seems to help mine seal better and having two manifolds with flat faces really helps. If you have the two separated, snug them to the head first, then to each other, then tighten to the head, then tighten to each other.
Joe

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Although this doesn't answer your question on if lock washers are required or not, I did come across this possibly helpful info about the torque specs for the manifolds.

According to this list [tpocr.com] (see Note 1 below chart) the torque values are indicated as:

Quote
End clamps 20ft.-lbs., center bolts 30ft.lbs.

Also found this previous Stovebolt conversation on 250 torque specs. There is an old but still active link in there to GM I6 engine torque specs for 1966 that should also apply to your '67 250. See the screenshot below for details.

I don't have a Chevy shop manual covering the '67 250 engines, so can't confirm if these are accurate or not???

Anyone else have that resource to confirm???

Dan

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Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
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Finally time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
Gdads51 #1502249 Fri May 26 2023 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gdads51
I don't have a Chevy shop manual covering the '67 250 engines, so can't confirm if these are accurate or not???

Anyone else have that resource to confirm???

Dan

Those numbers essentially confirm what I posted from the 1947-1952 shop manual.


1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
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1966 Oldsmobile online service manual, engine section. http://oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/Olds/1966/Chassis/06-Engine.pdf

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Thank you for the information and recommendations. I’ve never used exhaust gasket sealer before but I’m going to give it and loosen the exhaust from the intake then torque them a try. It will probably be a few days before I can do this but I’ll let you know how it went.

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