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#1501585 Sun May 21 2023 12:34 PM
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'Bolter
why does my 1951 3100 only have one outside door lock and it is on the passenger side ??

thanks

Garry Rhine #1501591 Sun May 21 2023 01:39 PM
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'Bolter
Because that is how they came from the factory.


'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/13
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Garry Rhine #1501593 Sun May 21 2023 01:52 PM
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I think that’s been discussed before as a safety feature so you don’t get your hiney peeled off while locking the driver’s door.

Last edited by DES57; Sun May 21 2023 08:58 PM. Reason: Inserted “driver’s” door.

1957 Chevy 3200
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Garry Rhine #1501596 Sun May 21 2023 02:26 PM
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'Bolter
So you can lock the vehicle and exit on the curb side, away from traffic.

Also, since you'll be going around to passenger side to open the door and help your wife out of the truck, you can lock it. Your side will aleready be locked.


1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Garry Rhine #1501600 Sun May 21 2023 02:53 PM
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'Bolter
On my 58/59`s the key lock is on the drivers side.
Blank on the passenger side/no key.
Passenger locks from the inside ,pushing handle forward.
Drivers side has key hole. Every truck from those years I've seen are like that.


BD

1958 3100 Apache Step side 1/2 ton 327 engine
1958 3100 Apache Panel 1/2 ton 235 engine
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'Bolter
Originally Posted by Otto Skorzeny
Also, since you'll be going around to passenger side to open the door and help your wife out of the truck

My wife hasn't been in my truck in years. No heated/AC seats, too much noise, etc.


'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/13
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
DES57 #1501701 Mon May 22 2023 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DES57
I think that’s been discussed before as a safety feature so you don’t get your hiney peeled off while locking the driver’s door.

This is too funny.

Even back then then. Must have been a "safety" concern in those big cities. grin


Peggy M
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Guitplayer #1501707 Mon May 22 2023 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitplayer
On my 58/59`s the key lock is on the drivers side.
Blank on the passenger side/no key.
Passenger locks from the inside ,pushing handle forward.
Drivers side has key hole. Every truck from those years I've seen are like that.

Both my 58 and my 59 are the opposite. Driver locks from the inside with the handle and passenger outside with a key.


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1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420
Driveable but the rear axle needs work.

1959 Apache, long bed Fleetside that has been in the family for 25 years but in desperate need of love.
Garry Rhine #1501712 Mon May 22 2023 02:58 PM
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I guess my 3 are odd.
Are the locks reversable? meaning passenger will fit drivers side.
trucks are not used in the cities much and back then there was not alot of traffic
to worry about getting "clipped".
I don`t get unlocking the passenger side and reaching thru to unlock drivers side.
2 are panel work trucks. I do appreciate the gas tank on the passenger side
with the panels in case you run out of gas and have to add.


BD

1958 3100 Apache Step side 1/2 ton 327 engine
1958 3100 Apache Panel 1/2 ton 235 engine
1959 3100 Apache Panel 1/2 ton 327 engine
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Garry Rhine #1501723 Mon May 22 2023 03:38 PM
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Trying to remember from old movies, didn't everyone get IN on the driver's side? No real memories of my own as we didn't have a car until I was 12. No one we knew had a truck ... a few station wagons, tho: Dad's, lady next door, family across the street. Mostly to haul a pile of kids; lady: a pile of dogs.

grin


Dan's gonna move this thread to the Spoon if I don't quit interrupting with chatter. nono

eeeek


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Guitplayer #1501727 Mon May 22 2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitplayer
Are the locks reversable? meaning passenger will fit drivers side.

I have been told that they are.

I have a spare door that I intend to take apart and verify this summer. If it is reversible, I will take some pics and write up a process for adding the locks to the d4iver side.


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1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420
Driveable but the rear axle needs work.

1959 Apache, long bed Fleetside that has been in the family for 25 years but in desperate need of love.
Garry Rhine #1501729 Mon May 22 2023 03:58 PM
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From what I have read (I wasn't even a glimmer in someones eye in the AD years and barely "hatched" in '59 at the tail end of the TF years grin ), the location of the cab door locks was based on "safety" concerns of the time.

Don't get me to lying about what any of the "powers that be" were thinking back then to decide where the respective lock locations would be, but agree that the AD years was probably from concerns over "skinned hiney's" (or worse) with most roads/city streets being narrow and not much room for curb parking. The TF years probably saw changes with roads being widened for the big increase in vehicles/traffic as well as folks may have just decided having to unlock from curb-side was too cumbersome.

I will leave the conversation open for further input, perhaps from others that have more knowledge than I, bit this one has about run it's course.

Have a great day everyone! thumbs_up

Dan


Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998)
Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)

Finally time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
Garry Rhine #1501733 Mon May 22 2023 04:16 PM
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Anyone know what year door locks began to show up on automobiles?

52Carl #1501752 Mon May 22 2023 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Anyone know what year door locks began to show up on automobiles?
The '29 Model A I had had door locks. They were probably on earlier models as well. As for Dan's comments about being only right side, I believe the locks on that Ford were on both sides.
I once rented a Lincoln Town Car back in the late 90's and it only had a lock on the passenger side door. ohwell


Kevin
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Garry Rhine #1501756 Mon May 22 2023 06:46 PM
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I don`t know much , but I do know I am a retired master locksmith at 60
that started work at my Aunt and Uncles locksmith shop at 17 years old.
I`ve pulled more GM columns than I care to remember. Made more keys to non-GM
locks by the art of "impressioning" as well. (Blank key ,vise grips and a rattail file.)
Even won some ALOA awards in the field in my day.
I don`t recall keyways being on the passenger side only.
Makes little sense to reach over the seat to unlock the drivers side lock.

Just sayin.


BD

1958 3100 Apache Step side 1/2 ton 327 engine
1958 3100 Apache Panel 1/2 ton 235 engine
1959 3100 Apache Panel 1/2 ton 327 engine
In Project Journals
Garry Rhine #1501772 Mon May 22 2023 08:58 PM
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Peggy: Lots of old movies had the driver sliding across to/from the passenger's door.

Once you get to push button handles in '52, the locking exterior button can be moved to either side. Some of the vendors sell a set of 2 locking buttons with matching keys. You turn-down handle guys have to put up with passenger-side keys only.


'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/13
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Garry Rhine #1501775 Mon May 22 2023 09:13 PM
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I don't lock any of my vehicles, ever.

There's nothing in them to steal and I don't want anybody breaking something if they want to get in to look for something to steal. I don't even roll up windows unless its raining.


1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Garry Rhine #1501776 Mon May 22 2023 09:19 PM
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Kevin,

I was only referring to the Chevy and GMC AD era trucks in my comments about door locks on the passenger side and not driver side.

My Grandpa's '51 is that way. To clarify the AD door lock info I could find, '47-'51 AD Trucks came standard with R-hand keyed door locks separate from the turn-down style door handle assembly. Beginning in '52, with the change of door handle style to the push-button design that allowed for a keyed lock cylinder in the push button, AD trucks through '55.1 (1st Series) came standard with the R-hand door lock, with the L-hand door lock being offered as an option.

It obviously made sense to the folks that designed the setups back then, but that was then and this is now. Things change.

Hope this clears up any misunderstandings. Moving on... wave

Dan

Last edited by Gdads51; Mon May 22 2023 09:21 PM.

Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998)
Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)

Finally time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
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