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I've seen a few I6 builds with forced induction. They perform really well even if you don't upgrade everything inside.
If mine had a 292 I would have turbod it, but it had a SB.
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IMHO the faint endorsement of your lengthy 292 project is not entirely how much was done, but more specifically was the money wisely spent? Did the changes represent a good value for the cost, or simply done because it was possible? In my opinion large sums were expended on relatively inefficient mods, such as the GMC supercharger (100 year old technology).
My 183" L6 Toyota 2JZ-GTE cylinder head cost very little, yet it permits turbo power above 1,500 hp (no, I'm not going that far) with minimal preparation. This is possible using the original 30 year old cylinder block, crankshaft, oil system, and very small cams.
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IMHO the faint endorsement of your lengthy 292 project is not entirely how much was done, but more specifically was the money wisely spent? Did the changes represent a good value for the cost, or simply done because it was possible? In my opinion large sums were expended on relatively inefficient mods, such as the GMC supercharger (100 year old technology).
My 183" L6 Toyota 2JZ-GTE cylinder head cost very little, yet it permits turbo power above 1,500 hp (no, I'm not going that far) with minimal preparation. This is possible using the original 30 year old cylinder block, crankshaft, oil system, and very small cams. Is that a Toyota head on a Stovebolt? Or a Toyota head on a Toyota?
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It's a Japanese imitation of a Jag XKE engine from the 1960's, with some modern upgrades like fuel injection and electronic ignition. It has dual overhead cams and a pretty beefy bottom end which lends itself to Rube Goldberg modifications pretty well. That's another engine that screams "Look at me- - - - -I can write a big check!" Very few of the people who go for those ridiculous modifications are doing the wrenching themselves. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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EW/r/t "Is that a Toyota head on a Stovebolt?"
I've been readings this sort of thing for decades: "My neighbor’s friend’s brother knows a guy who…..” One of the most common is “just bolted on a Jaguar XK-E cylinder head, Toyota Land Cruiser head, Nissan RB head," etc. I hate to say impossible, let's just say it never happened.
Everything is an imitation, and the Jaguar XK (which dates to 1948) wasn't the first DOHC 12 valve cross-flow L6 engine (Maserati & ALFA already there decades earlier).
My 2JZ 24 valve engine is a re-design (not an upgrade) over the prior Toyota "7M" L6 engine, which superseded the "6M", etc. back to OHV engines. It's also so unrelated to the Toyota Crown "GZ" V12 engine (widely reported to be 2 X JZ engines on a single crank).
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Lets stay relevant to HiPo upgrades for Chevy trucks here. Chatter about theoretical upgrades that might or might not functional on Toyondas can wander over to the Spoon.
From the Rocky Mountains?Check in with the RM Bolters!HiPo Forum Moderator1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420 Driveable but the rear axle needs work. 1959 Apache, long bed Fleetside that has been in the family for 25 years but in desperate need of love.
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This s200 was custom made for me. There were features that I wanted that didn't come with it. I'm sorry my build bums you guys out so much. Not really. I thought this was the HiPo forum. I must be mistaken.
Old enough to know better, too young to resist.
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Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator)
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This s200 was custom made for me. There were features that I wanted that didn't come with it. I'm sorry my build bums you guys out so much. Not really. I thought this was the HiPo forum. I must be mistaken. Your build is both fine and interesting to me. Want me to move it to its own thread to get the attention it deserves? That kind of build is one of the main reasons this forum exists.
From the Rocky Mountains?Check in with the RM Bolters!HiPo Forum Moderator1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420 Driveable but the rear axle needs work. 1959 Apache, long bed Fleetside that has been in the family for 25 years but in desperate need of love.
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Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator)
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In my opinion large sums were expended on relatively inefficient mods, such as the GMC supercharger (100 year old technology).
My 183" L6 Toyota 2JZ-GTE cylinder head cost very little, yet it permits turbo power above 1,500 hp (no, I'm not going that far) with minimal preparation. This is possible using the original 30 year old cylinder block, crankshaft, oil system, and very small cams. I keep reading this and I am pretty baffled what the fact that superchargers have been around for 100 years has to do with anything? Forced induction remains the easiest way to make power without starting from a larger displacement engine. My stock ls can hit 2000 hp with sufficient turbos. What does that have to do with anything? I have noticed an increasing trend of users deriding other people's builds for no good reason other than they can. Be on notice that this trend will stop.
From the Rocky Mountains?Check in with the RM Bolters!HiPo Forum Moderator1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420 Driveable but the rear axle needs work. 1959 Apache, long bed Fleetside that has been in the family for 25 years but in desperate need of love.
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The HiPo Forum has traditionally been hands off unless the modifications are a safety hazard. Maybe we need to get back to that way of thinking. Moderator can always hit the delete button.
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