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Use a big V belt (like one for a garden tractor belly mower blade drive) looped through the gap in the block and tied into a choker as a lifting device that won't scar up the paint. That's how we handled Cummins crankshafts with a forklift, putting them between centers on the crankshaft grinder. They weigh 700 lbs. or more.

If that "parts" engine can find its way to Tennessee, I know a crochety old curmudgeon who can build it up into a spare short block.
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Dean -- Throwout bearing ....

Just want to confirm -- The thing I'm holding in the picture is what you're talking about, yes?

Thx,
John

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Throwout bearing?

John

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'Bolter
That's part of the throw out bearing assembly. If you buy the newer-style throw out bearing assembly, this part gets replaced, as you'll see below.

In the transmission bell housing is the throw out bearing actuator arm. At the inner end of the arm is a round clamp that holds the carbon disc (the throw out bearing itself). Here's a new carbon disc (from the Filling Station's web catalog): https://store.fillingstation.com/detail/AF-91/Chevrolet_19271928_CLUTCH_THRUST_CARBON_DISC.html

Here's the newer throw out bearing assembly, where you can see that the carbon disk has been replaced with a ball bearing: https://store.fillingstation.com/detail/CV-102/Chevrolet_192531_THROW_OUT_BEARING_CONVERSION.html

No machining is required to use the new bearing assembly. ;-)

Cheers, Dean


Dean 'Rustoholic' Meltz
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Thanks Dean -- so the throw out bearing conversion piece fits into the end of the actuator arm where the carbon disc is?

I have a shop manual on order.

Now for the next round of "Name That Part!"

... On the push rod covers ... am I right in thinking that the '27 didn't use side covers??

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How do these attach if there is no bolt hole in the block?? Were mine filled in??
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My engine. Can't see how the push rod covers attach??

John

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'Bolter
You asked: "so the throw out bearing conversion piece fits into the end of the actuator arm where the carbon disc is?"
Yes. Instructions come with the new throw out bearing assembly.

Regarding the photos:

1. Dunno. Maybe a gas tank strap from a car, not a truck. The gas tank goes under the seat in the cab. The correct straps have a 5/16" T bolt riveted at both ends of each strap. There should be tank cross members on the chassis to support the gas tank.

2. Possibly cab parts. Not sure.

3. The rail on the far left is for a floor board support for the slanted boards that go from the firewall to the cab floor. The top board will have a hole for the pedals. I have no idea about the other parts.

4. The other support for the slanted floor boards.

5. The push rod covers are for 1928 only. You'll see that your head has side lips that would contact the side of these covers, but the block does not. Those side lips on the head continue down to the block on a '28 block and the '28 block has the bolt holes for those covers.

6. Two things to note about this side view of the engine.

A - The hole in the flyhweel cover is where you should see a U|C when the first cylinder is at TDC on the compression stroke. There is another mark on the flywheel for 25 degrees before TDC. You'll use these marks to statically time the distributor.

B - The top radiator connection is from the '27 engine. If you want a thermostat, get a '28 radiator connector, which can house it.

Cheers, Dean


Dean 'Rustoholic' Meltz
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Thanks Dean! On the gas tank straps, I have the correct ones -- they were easy enough to figure out wink

I've been looking at a LOT of pictures on line -- those classic car dealers are great because they post a lot of pictures of even the basket cases/barn finds. I've identified a lot of stuff so far just by studying a lot of those detailed photos. I may need Lurch to help me put all the radiator pieces together... a few pictures of all of that would probably be helpful to determine which pieces to start running through the blast cabinet and which ones don't belong.

I've started wondering if I have car-specific parts thrown in here ....

At the moment, the chassis is serving as a workbench. As you can see in the pictures, I have all my drip pans on it holding parts and a pallet. Slowly, I am cleaning it off as I identify and organize parts back into bins. One of the big things I'm jazzed about is the bed hardware -- but I'll save that for a later journal entry...

Are there any go-to vendors besides The Filling Station and ebay for parts?


John

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Originally Posted by John Milliman
Brian ... Hmmm ... I may have some left overs you could use ...

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I appreciate the thought, but I've got that covered. A friend of mine gave me all of the stuff he had. He needed to move it all from Texas to Washington and didn't have the space to store it at his new home. The attached photos don't show the engine blocks, transmissions, fenders and other stuff. I stopped at accepting a '25 truck frame.

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Brian -- your collection looks like mine!


John

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
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'Bolter
Here's the parts sources that I'm aware of. There are probably more.

1. The Filling Station - https://www.fillingstation.com/

2. Gary Wallace - http://earlychevyparts.com/ (he has a good stash of used parts)

3. Marx Parts - https://marxparts.com/repro%20chevy.htm

4. Billy Possem - http://www.billypossum.com/Catalog/Catalog.php

There are folks that advertise in the VCCA's monthly magazine (Generator and Distributor) who have parts.

Also, a good source is to advertise what you want in the Parts Wanted forum on the VCCA website - https://vccachat.org/ubbthreads.php/forums/26/1/parts-wanted.html

Dean


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HUGE day in the shop today!

I *finally* got the parts inventory done and all the pieces sorted and off the frame. Turns out what I have here represents three trucks and two cars ... wink Possibly three cars, who knows?? I have parts sorted as to where they go or as "Who the heck knows what this is???" The unknown bin is actually not too big (and getting smaller) at this point, thanks to Dean!

So as of today, I can actually start moving forward. Next steps are to clean and touch up the chassis, inspect the engine and then remate it with the transmission and work on the driveline.

After that ... start working on all the linkages.

Toward that end ... a very important bit of intelligence came my way over the weekend... There exists within St. Mary's County, a barn find (i.e., unrestored and unmolested) 1931 truck that is available to me as a resource. I'm hoping to learn a lot from it.

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Today's beauty shot -- Finally, a good look at the rolling chassis
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I temporarily installed the steering column ... seemed the best way to store it for now
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Other quarter view. I have a lot of things on the wall in the OR. Still not sure what's what, but I'm getting there.

John

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

1927 Chevrolet Capitol 1-Ton Express -- A work in progress
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1949 Chevrolet 3804
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1973 IH 1310 Dump
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
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