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ronsway #1501906 Tue May 23 2023 11:21 PM
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I started to prep my new (to me ) 235, the number next to distributor is F1016PF. I was under the impression that this was going to be a pretty straight forward swap for the 216. I even ordered the water pump plate. But, now the bell housing is not nearly the same as the 216 so I am not sure how to or what use for a transmission , drive line & rear end. If I change transmissions what about the brake and clutch pedals? Let's not forget motor mounts.

I have any experience with this generation of Chev's. I have a friend who is more experienced and he says it can be done with a lot of modifications. I looked at 1955 235 and it looked like the same bell housing.

What are my options?

ronsway #1501917 Wed May 24 2023 12:51 AM
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You can bolt your 216 bellhousing to your 235. The bolt pattern is the same. That will allow you to use all of the original drive train.

ronsway #1501922 Wed May 24 2023 01:21 AM
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Here is what my bell housing looks like and it bolts right up to a ‘59 235.

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ronsway #1501924 Wed May 24 2023 01:27 AM
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I swapped a 216 for a 235 in my 1950 1 ton
I kept all the original accessories and even the manifolds
I swapped the harmonic balancer
Kept my old generator and water pump
Moved the distributor over
It all worked out just fine
216 block 3835327
235 block 5843350
You wouldn’t know the engine swapped
It looks like a 216 with the tiny bolts ontop of the valve cover
-s

ronsway #1501932 Wed May 24 2023 02:40 AM
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The bell housing on the 235 looks same as "small" block V8. I just did a quick visual and the 2 top mounting holes on 235 bell housing are 2" further apart than the 216.
It is my understanding this motor was in passenger car would that make a difference? Based on the number on the block it appears to be a 1961 block.

I have seen the pictures and I wish mine looked like that....

ronsway #1501933 Wed May 24 2023 03:05 AM
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If you've got a SBC V8 bellhousing bolt pattern, it's not a 235. The 194, 230, 250, and 292 sixes have the same bolt pattern as a V8. Does the cylinder head have shaft mounted rocker arms, or are there individual studs that mount the rockers?
Jerry


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ronsway #1501936 Wed May 24 2023 05:12 AM
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Can engine be identified by stamped number next distributor? That number is F1016PF.

ronsway #1501962 Wed May 24 2023 03:05 PM
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Ron,

I did some searching on the web to try and identify your engine based on the provided "F1016PF" info.

Can't find any listings for any Chevy I6 engines (216, 235 or the later style 194, 230, 250 and 292) that listed "PF" as an engine identifying "suffix" code.

We need more information to try and determine what this particular engine is. Please provide pictures of:

Overall view of left and right sides of this "235" in question.

Stamped engine serial number.

Engine block "casting number" (should be on the passenger side of block lower down near the oil pan mounting surface between front of engine and starter).

Engine block "casting date" (should be on lower passenger side of block near engine serial number stamping pad).

Once we have these pictures, it will help us help you in knowing exactly what engine you have before further conversation on mating this up (possibly) to your '41 AK.

Looking forward to seeing what you can provide. thumbs_up

Dan


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ronsway #1501968 Wed May 24 2023 04:38 PM
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Here are pictures of #'s on passenger side:

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ronsway #1501970 Wed May 24 2023 05:09 PM
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ronsway, your picture shows a block with side motor mounts, that would mean it's a much later engine. As HRL (Jerry) said if the bell housing is indeed a SBC bolt pattern than it would most likely be a 194, 230 or 250. the 292 has a taller lifter galley cover. There should be a series of number "Stamped" into a machined area on the block.


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