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#1498402 Thu Apr 27 2023 01:10 PM
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My 1950 GMC 3 speed transmission has a fill plug on the rear of the transmission stock. I have been told there should be a vent there and not just a fill plug. Can anyone verify that there should be a vent in that location.
I have replaced the gasket between the transmission and the yoke housing. It lasts for a bit but starts leaking again. Is there pressure building up and blowing the gasket out?
I have attached a photo
Thanks

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Rmcea #1498500 Thu Apr 27 2023 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rmcea
My 1950 GMC 3 speed transmission has a fill plug on the rear of the transmission stock. I have been told there should be a vent there and not just a fill plug. Can anyone verify that there should be a vent in that location.
I have replaced the gasket between the transmission and the yoke housing. It lasts for a bit but starts leaking again. Is there pressure building up and blowing the gasket out?
I have attached a photo
Thanks
My 53 with a 3 speed has the same plug as your picture. if you look at a Chevy truck shop manual you can see the same plug there not a vent. My truck also has a vent on top of the rear end.


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Rmcea #1498502 Thu Apr 27 2023 11:24 PM
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According to the Chevy '48-'51 and '54 Shop manuals, that "plug" is noted as the "Bearing support retainer plug" (Item# 12 in the attached pic).

Pretty sure the GMC 3-speed is the same in this respect. Fellow GMC knowledgeable folks will chime in here to correct me if I am wrong.

Removing that would lead to some not so pleasant internal failures in your transmission.

On the leakage, it may not be so much as pressure building as a slight overfill condition causing the leakage???

Hope this is helpful.

Dan

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Rmcea #1498504 Thu Apr 27 2023 11:32 PM
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What Dan said. IIRC, the plug has an extension on the inside (longer than a standard pipe plug) that keeps the rear bearing in position. The service manual calls for adding 1/2 pint of transmission lube thru the plug opening whenever the u-joint bell is disassembled.

Your leak is probably pretty normal given a 70 year old bell gasket setup. When the u-joint fails (and it probably has over the life of the truck), the ball where the cork seal runs gets lumps on the outside, along with the normal wear of the movement of the torque tube as the rear springs flex. Also, you may not have installed the correct number of gaskets between the transmission and bell cover. There's a procedure to determine how many gaskets to use. But it will still probably leak. frown

Or someone may have plugged the vent on the rear axle, causing pressure to build up in there. That happened on my truck and the rear axle bearing seals were basically blown out.

Last edited by klhansen; Thu Apr 27 2023 11:34 PM.

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Rmcea #1498509 Fri Apr 28 2023 12:18 AM
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Determine the right number of gaskets to seal the bell by doing a "dry run" without the cross joint hooked up. Just use the bell. Install the bell only with the cork and 3 or 4 of the gaskets. With the 4 mounting bolts tight, you should be able to barely flex the bell by hand. Can't flex? Add a gasket. Easy flex? Take one out. Mine requires 4.
Then take the bell back off and install with the cross joint.
I add the 1/2 pint of mineral trans oil through the speedo hole. That rear plug is too small to pour.
I have no leaks.

Last edited by Jethro in Va; Fri Apr 28 2023 12:40 AM. Reason: Add info

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Jethro in Va #1498515 Fri Apr 28 2023 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jethro in Va
Install the bell only with the cork and 3 or 4 of the gaskets.
The shop manual specifies adjustment WITHOUT the cork seal installed.


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