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#1496596 Sat Apr 15 2023 01:00 PM
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Someone brought me another jewel to work on

I need to confirm it’s a 49

3800

Single rear wheel

Step side box that dumps (well it doesn’t yet nor does it run)

Could you order a dumping box from the factory?

Thanks

Jack Ryan #1496615 Sat Apr 15 2023 03:33 PM
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Jack,

Got any pictures of it? I think it'll be helpful to identify it.


Peggy M
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Jack Ryan #1496682 Sun Apr 16 2023 02:01 AM
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Yup. smile

Looking forward too seeing.

Last edited by Peggy M; Sun Apr 16 2023 02:02 AM.

Peggy M
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Jack Ryan #1496743 Sun Apr 16 2023 04:26 PM
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Pics

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Jack Ryan #1496760 Sun Apr 16 2023 07:21 PM
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'Bolter
Now, there’s another jewel, alright !
I love the flared box sides.
The belt hydraulic pump is a real direct approach.
I wonder if the box was designed for sugar beets?
C


1954 Chevy 3100 w. ‘59 235 - 261 project engine
1963 Chevy half ton stepside short box 230
1954 GMC 3 ton 302
And several more Chevy camper and work trucks 1979 1987 1996
1931 Packard car, 327 i 8 auto
Charley
Jack Ryan #1496764 Sun Apr 16 2023 07:35 PM
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Sugar beets is a good guess

Can’t figure out where it’s from by markings on the door

I’m in northern Illinois

When I saw belt driven pump I thought aftermarket

Thought factory would be driven off trans

Jack Ryan #1496981 Tue Apr 18 2023 05:07 AM
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The belt driven pump with the big activation knob poking through the dash looks exactly like the one my 1948 3800 has. My dump box, however, is a single hoist and the box is ready made, completely, somewhere in the US I suppose. It was designed to have the stock fenders mounted on the aftermarket box. There is a manufactures tag on the outside LF corner of the all steel bed.

That's all for now and hope this helps somehow..

Jack Ryan #1497078 Tue Apr 18 2023 07:20 PM
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Second response:

The seller said some older Uncle had passed on and the 48 made it to him. His story, as told to him, was this PU was ordered with No bed and when it arrived in eastern MT, the rear fenders were strapped to the frame. The Chevy dealership installed the dump box on it. It was used for grain hauling.

That is all I know.

Jack Ryan #1497134 Wed Apr 19 2023 12:13 AM
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'Bolter
That is interesting

This box is 9’

Figured out it’s a local truck

MONROE CENTER IIL (as Illinois used to be abbreviated) so no sugar beets

Maybe used for ear corn?

Cool stuff!

Jack Ryan #1497135 Wed Apr 19 2023 12:17 AM
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I’ll see if I can find an ID on the box

Jack Ryan #1497136 Wed Apr 19 2023 12:20 AM
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So Jack, did you get the "truck to work on" from 4D8PU?

Is that info on the door what it looks like -- it is this "Rt 1" ... ?

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Last edited by Peggy M; Wed Apr 19 2023 11:00 PM.

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Jack Ryan #1497267 Wed Apr 19 2023 09:40 PM
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After closer examination actually someone else saw it the lettering is MONROE CENTER IIL

As far back as I know history a car dealer Jack Wolf got it

Jack was in to old cars

A friend of mine bought it

Any leads on options for that year

Was the 9’ box available or custom?

Jack Ryan #1497298 Thu Apr 20 2023 02:50 AM
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The 9' bed was standard on the 3804 models. Looks like the flared sides are add-ons. The dumping mechanism is also add-on/after market.


John

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

1927 Chevrolet Capitol 1-Ton Express -- A work in progress
In Project Journals
1949 Chevrolet 3804
In Gallery Forum
1973 IH 1310 Dump
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
In Daily Driver Gallery


Jack Ryan #1497310 Thu Apr 20 2023 11:33 AM
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Thank you

Jack Ryan #1497325 Thu Apr 20 2023 01:43 PM
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Jack -- You bet. Here are some photos that might help -- these show how the bed looks on all 3804's, and how your truck would have looked, coming out of the factory. Also, it was fixed to the frame -- no hoist mechanism.

Anything beyond this configuration (as on your truck) was added at some point after it left the factory. Unless you have some documentation, it will be very hard to say for sure if this was a dealer add on or a post-sale upfit that the truck owner did at some point. Your add-ons look professionally done and not farm shop "agri-engineered." wink

There might be some literature floating around out there for that company. There were a lot of companies, most regional, that offered up-fits like that.

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Info from the GM salesman's data book

John

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers

1927 Chevrolet Capitol 1-Ton Express -- A work in progress
In Project Journals
1949 Chevrolet 3804
In Gallery Forum
1973 IH 1310 Dump
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
In Daily Driver Gallery


Jack Ryan #1497371 Thu Apr 20 2023 06:39 PM
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Thank you!

Jack Ryan #1498869 Sun Apr 30 2023 08:27 PM
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Anyone know the dimensions for the wood for the floor of the bed

Width of plank

Thickness of the plank

Dims of edges where steel strips hold them down

Thanks

Jack Ryan #1498877 Sun Apr 30 2023 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Ryan
Anyone know the dimensions for the wood for the floor of the bed

Width of plank

Thickness of the plank

Dims of edges where steel strips hold them down

Thanks
Widths varied. Use the position of the bolts/holes in the cross sills. There would have been 9 boards on your truck. The boards would be a nominal 3/4" thick.

Here [gmcpauls.com] is some info on bed wood, including the dimensions for where the steel strips go.


Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
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First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
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Jack Ryan #1498909 Mon May 01 2023 02:01 AM
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Thank you

Jack Ryan #1499071 Tue May 02 2023 12:18 PM
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Got it running

Hoist works!

Jack Ryan #1499082 Tue May 02 2023 01:18 PM
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Jack,

That's great news! thumbs_up

We need PICTURES my friend - haha!!!

Don't keep us in suspense, please. grin

Dan


Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998)
Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)

Finally time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
Jack Ryan #1501567 Sun May 21 2023 08:27 AM
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I need an education about the box inside the engine bay mounted where the brake MC is found. I see a rubber hose going into it.

Is that for some type of vacuum assist ? Curious minds want to know.

Nice truck.

Tom

Jack Ryan #1501597 Sun May 21 2023 02:31 PM
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Possibly a hydraulic fluid reservoir for dump cylinders.


1949 gmc 1-ton
Jack Ryan #1501815 Tue May 23 2023 05:32 AM
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I have a '50 L134 (3800) Canadian truck with a dump box as well. My box lift system looks like the same as yours except my hydraulic pump is PTO driven off the transmission. You have a nice truck.

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