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Has anyone tried the expansion foam that supposedly does not push to sound deaden the A B pillars, cavity between tank and Window? I'd like to try it, but am scared.
Even thinking about the cavity between the inner and outer roof?
Last edited by Ferris Bueller; Sun Apr 02 2023 11:35 AM.
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There are two types if you use the type used for insulating windows it does not have as much force.
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Something to consider Expanding foam products for construction come in many variations and some are open cell while other are closed cell
Both open and closed can get water logged, but closed cell takes much longer to soak in water All foams once water logged cannot be dried out and must be cut out, my dad had a old panel van that was foam insulated and the foam didn’t stop condensation from penetrating the foam to the back side of the metal body and this lead to massive rusting out of the whole vehicle in a decade.
Since this foam would be acting like it’s own vapor barrier I would only consider a closed cell type for in a car
All the single can foam products are open cell You need a kit that mixes two products in the nozzle to get closed cell foams They are highly exothermic but spraying in metal you should be fine. -s
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Consider that foam may trap moisture, either from water intrusion or condensing. If you use sound deadening pads you will get significant improvement, removing the tank to install if necessary, in the pillars will offer less result as those areas are small and tight which resonate less. Larger the span the more it resonates. Summit has their own brand peel and stick rubber/alum pad kit that priced out well. Still have extra laying around.
When I did inside the door panels, floors, firewall, and cab rear lower half I got significant results, if I had done behind/above the headliner I would expect added reduction (is added reduction and oxymoron? How about further reduction) The doors sound more solid than I expected when they close instead of tinny, even though I did not do the outer skin (so they could breathe).
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I don't think completely filling void is necessary. Just getting a few areas will stop the resonance I think. I am very happy with how thuddy the floor and rear is up to the top of where the tank goes. As soon as you start tapping high in the B pillar you can hear it vibrating. Same with the roof.
If a guy didn't fill it completely air could still circulate and dry if any moisture got in there.
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If you're just trying to take the "ring" (like a bell) out of a panel, just about anything that can be stuck to the center of it will work. I've seen where they just took a glob of roofing tar (or something similar) and smeared it on the underside of the panel. Roofing tar probably wouldn't be the best choice.
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I had mine sprayed with fluid film, inside doors, rockers, roof, window killers, everywhere he could get. Truck sounds much more solid, all tinny sounds gone, more quiet going down the road and I don't have to worry about rust starting on the inside of all my new panels.
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What is fluid film in this context?
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Took care of the ring, tinny sound, truck is much quieter. NO moisture issues. We use spray foam a lot in my trade, it is highly over rated.
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They make a product just for this app called Lizard Skin.
Evan
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