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#1484524 Sat Jan 21 2023 11:59 PM
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MNSmith Offline OP
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
I don't know!!

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Drive it like ya stole it, maybe?
Jerry


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Scrap it. grin

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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
The rockers on it are beautiful!

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1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420
Driveable but the rear axle needs work.
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How do you know you have all of the necessary parts?

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If it is a GMC you need to get it away from your Chevy engines before they die of embarrassment. I'll volunteer to drag it away, no charge.

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270 or 302?


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First thing you need to do is share with us what you used to paint the block so that everyone will know what the correct color a stock AD Chevrolet truck engine is supposed to look like (even though this is neither stock, nor Chevrolet).

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Does anyone know what company built this head? The 45 degree input ports rule out most 12 port GMC head builders. I know that the Fisher heads had 90 degree intake ports. Plus, all of Horning's heads were cast iron. The head in Mark's picture at the top of this thread looks aluminum to me.

The two piece valve cover looks like a Bill Fisher part, but the only one I've ever seen had "Fisher - GMC" cast into the top.

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MNSmith Offline OP
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Bill, I do know that info but I'm not sure I can share just yet. I believe that head is 1 of 12. It is aluminum.

Jerry, I don't know the cubic inch just yet. I will when I start digging in to it.

Panic, I still have much more I need to collect for it. The parts are in multiple locations.

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The Howard and Wayne look similar with angled intakes, but the ports are 2-2-2, not 1-1-1-1-1-1

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Bill Hanlon Frontennack

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One of Charlie Baker's heads?


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Originally Posted by fixite7
Bill Hanlon Frontennack

Which? Head or valve cover? Or both?

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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
So, you fellas got me looking into it a bit. Yep, Howard Johansen/Nick Arias head, cover and rockers. Schultz intake. Schultz ignition trigger. Looks like Schultz machined the valve cover smooth. And it wouldn't surprise me if he had Donnie Johansen grind the cam to his specs. From what I understand, these heads were made for the 302, but from what I was looking at, alternator mount, etc., this block looks like a 270? You guys let me know/chime in. Still would be a fun project to have.

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Below is info on the Johansen head copied from "The 12 Port Story Pt. 6" written
by Herbert Hall (originally printed in Vol. 2, Issue 1 of the 12 Port News)

By the late Fall of 1951, about 3 to 4 months after that day Art was down to see
Howard about the Bonneville car, Howard Johansen had gone ahead and produced
just such a cylinder head; like the one they had talked about that afternoon. In
producing his first 12 Port head for the GMC, Howard Johansen chose 356
aluminum. He not only patterned his combustion chamber after Harry Warner's GMC
head, but also after the earlier, flat chamber of the 1928 Chevy four. Howard also
decided he was right concerning the intake ports. On his 12 port head, he inclined the
intakes to about 45 degrees for better flow, straight down to the valves. In doing this,
he was looking back to the intake design of the Riley 4, and engine Howard has
successfully campaigned around the country with Jim Rathman at the wheel in a car
owned by Andy Linden.

The new Howard 12 port head for the GMC had 1 7/8" intake valves and 1 3/4"
exhausts. The intake ports were 1 7/8" x 1 11/16" and the exhaust ports were 1 19/32"
x 1 28/32". The head had bronze valve inserts and bronze valve guides. A stock
GMC rocker arm assembly was used and Howard reground a stock steel cam for the
head. With a Howard F series cam, these Jimmies revved into the 5,000 to 5.500
r.p.m. range and up to 6,500 r.p.m with a Howard M series cam. Howard also had
special tubular pushrods available for the GMC. In April of 1952, "Hot Rod"
magazine ran Howard's first ad for the new 12 port head for GMC. Art Benjamin,
who was often over to Howard's shop and who was a distributor of Howard cams and
speed equipment, recalls that there were from 10-12 of these heads produced, all in
aluminum. This conflicts somewhat with other estimates of around half dozen heads
produced, but Art is very confident in his estimate.

The dyno tests proved out Howard Johansen's thinking on the design changes he
envisioned after looking over the Wayne 12 port that summer afternoon. In an
advertisement for "Howard's Racing Cams," h.p. levels of 303 h.p. from a 297 cu. in.
GMC with the Howard 12 port head and using straight methanol were
obtained. When the fuel was beefed up with the addition of 25% nitro, the h.p.
jumped to 351, that's right, over 350 h.p. form a 297 cu. in engine. I have in my files
copy of a Howard GMC engine testing report, in which a 298 cu.in GMC fitted with a
Howard 5 carb manifold, Howard F-7 cam, 12:1 compression and Howard pistons,
running methanol and of course the Howard 12 port head, turned out a top h.p. rating
of 355 h.p. at 5,200 r.p.m., and amazing figure. These 12 port cylinder heads were
first offered at $270, and later were raised to $290. What deal, that was a very low
price even in 1952.

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MNSmith,

How is a 270 different externally than a 302?

Ed


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I found this, shall we say, interesting quote from Dan Warner (son of Harry): "Don Ferguson III had the 300 MPH exit speed at Speedweek last year. He was using an original Wayne head."
I hope that's a typo or bad memory, we all know why.

I've poked around, and can't find any 12 port head with 45° angled intake ports and evenly-spaced individual ports as shown. All of them had paired ports, like SBC, BBM, etc.

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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Originally Posted by EdPruss
MNSmith,

How is a 270 different externally than a 302?

Ed

No clue. I haven't played with gas inliners much in my life.

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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Originally Posted by panic
I've poked around, and can't find any 12 port head with 45° angled intake ports and evenly-spaced individual ports as shown. All of them had paired ports, like SBC, BBM, etc.

They are paired. "Schultz intake." He made a manifold for individual throttlebodies. KMS throttlebodies, if I looked it up correctly.

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Originally Posted by panic
I've poked around, and can't find any 12 port head with 45° angled intake ports and evenly-spaced individual ports as shown. All of them had paired ports, like SBC, BBM, etc.

These links show some "Howard" heads that have paired ports as you said. One picture in the 1st link shows "Howard" cast into the head. "Howard" is Howard Johansen of Howard Cams fame.

Scroll down for 2nd Howard head with what looks like Hilborn injection [forums.aaca.org]

Looks like a Wayne valve cover [jalopyjournal.com]

Bare head [bpeheads.com]



I'll bet Panic is right about the Howard heads having paired intake ports. So What head is shown in the original, non-paired intake, picture?

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"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
I'll get ya'll a better picture. Gonna take a minute or two. Got an after lunch meeting, managers roaming through the place, roll up door vendors fixing broken doors, employees that need direction, ..........

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The distance between adjacent throttle bodies in your picture is the same all down the head.
So each pair of throttle bodies *1+2, etc.) have a "Y" shaped manifold to conform to the 2-2-2 intake ports?

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MNSmith Offline OP
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Yes. Although, it’s all one manifold.

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Looks like the nuts are already off the manifold studs. Pull the manifold and look for "Howard" between the #2 and #3 intake ports.

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MNSmith Offline OP
"Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!!
Don't need to. It can be seen with the manifold on.

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I went the easy way. Ryan Falconer V-12 head.

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