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WardSaysNo30 #1480810 Wed Dec 28 2022 09:51 PM
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Kevin,

Were the issues you had with "getting it to dry" caused by cold temps, the product itself or some other factor(s)???

Also wondered about how much (if any) odor problem you had with this oil based stain???

Thanks!


Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998)
Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)

Finely time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
WardSaysNo30 #1480845 Thu Dec 29 2022 02:42 AM
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
I initially brushed the stain on and got it on a bit too heavy. I also flipped the boards over after it felt non-tacky, and where it was in contact with the saw horses I used, it couldn't evaporate. The air temps were generally above 60 when painting, and above 50 overnight, but I imagine warmer temps would have caused it to dry faster. I wound up sanding some of the soft spots off and then went to spraying instead of brushing. I needed to wait a couple days before doing the opposite side of the boards. I eventually put three coats on each side, one brushed, and two sprayed. While spraying, it made my eyes burn just a bit, so I made sure I had good ventilation. It wasn't bad while drying, but I had plenty of air leakage into the tent is was using.

I'm expecting it to last pretty well. Maybe hoping is a better word. ohwell


Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
WardSaysNo30 #1480871 Thu Dec 29 2022 01:15 PM
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Thanks for the detailed reply Kevin. thumbs_up

The look is great IMO and hope it will be durable for you.

Thinking the oil base should help in extending the finish life as it penetrates the wood deeper than other products I think.


Dan

1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 (My Grandpa's hunting truck)
1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod)
2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver)
US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998)
Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)

Finely time to get to work on my Grandpa's (now mine) truck!
WardSaysNo30 #1480878 Thu Dec 29 2022 03:19 PM
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'Bolter
Did the factory stain the beds with opaque black stain or were they painted black?

Last edited by Otto Skorzeny; Thu Dec 29 2022 03:19 PM.

1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom)
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck)
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif)
1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red)
1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe
1979 Ford F-100
1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red)
1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
WardSaysNo30 #1480879 Thu Dec 29 2022 03:21 PM
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'Bolter
I don't know about judging, my truck will never be show quality but I did use yellow pine and painted it black based on the MAR-K study. I did not have the same results they did. I had a lot of my boards rot within 3-4 years. They were exposed to the weather year round.


Dave from Northern Kentucky
My 54 3100 [photos.app.goo.gl]
WardSaysNo30 #1480883 Thu Dec 29 2022 03:29 PM
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D
'Bolter
Has anyone used a sheet of pressure treated plywood for a bed and just added the steel strips on top or routed out the channels for the metal strips. I was wondering if the pressure treated plywood held up and better in the weather.


Dave from Northern Kentucky
My 54 3100 [photos.app.goo.gl]
dgrinnan #1480894 Thu Dec 29 2022 05:07 PM
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'Bolter
Dave,
Regular plywood (48"x96") will not fit, bed is 50" wide. Look for ping pong table plywood which is bigger. This is what I did to my truck many years ago and it's still going strong. Didn't bother to route for the metal strips. Just installed them on top.


Craig's '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, 235cu
My truck [cmaynard.com]
If I'm not working on my truck or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
WardSaysNo30 #1480898 Thu Dec 29 2022 06:12 PM
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Craig, what finish did you put on the plywood? Paint or some other sealer like poly, spar, ????


Dave from Northern Kentucky
My 54 3100 [photos.app.goo.gl]
WardSaysNo30 #1480909 Thu Dec 29 2022 09:04 PM
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Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums
In case anyone wants to try it, this is what I used on my pine boards I got from Mar-K. It's pretty watery, so soaks in fairly well.

Unfortunately, it only comes in gallons, and I used around a pint from the can.

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Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
Busting rust since the mid-60's
If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
WardSaysNo30 #1480923 Thu Dec 29 2022 11:11 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 31,776
Bubba - Curmudgeon
On pine boards, I have successfully used this bed-board painting technique from Mar-K:

Quoting Mar-K:

This coating has not failed.
Only slight dulling of the original gloss.
No other defects.

If a weather resistant finish is desired, this is the best system we have tested.

Oak boards [I have also used this on pine boards, TCL]:

Coat all six sides of boards with three brushed-coats of POR-15 Rust Preventative Paint, three hours apart.
then
Coat all six sides of boards with three brushed-coats of Behr best quality black [I used semi-gloss, TCL] exterior latex enamel, three hours apart


Original posting by Mar-K [mar-k.com]
POR-15 Black Rust Preventative Paint and BEHR Gloss Black exterior paint


Tim
1954Advance-Design.com [1954advance-design.com]
1954 3106 Carryall Suburban [stovebolt.com] - part of the family for 49 years
1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic [1954advance-design.com] - part of the family for 15 years
- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
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