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I believe you have 7.17/9.77:1 gears.


I got my gaskets from Dcaptian...

http://www.dcaptain.com/beaconray_gasket_kit.htm


Ask the fire company what radio they used.


The standard issue trans for Spartan 100's was the New Process 540 (NP-540)...it's shift pattern was 1st is left and up, 2, 3, 4 & 5 as an H in the middle and R is to the right and up.

I'm betting that's the original transmission in your truck and believe it's the optional Spicer, either model 3152 (standard ratio) or model 3152A (close ratio). Their shift pattern is just like your gear shift knob shows with R and 1st to the left.

Mike B

Radios ……. I don’t know how it is in your neck of the woods but here in central Oklahoma, the communication radios are not mounted in the dash. They are mounted along with the siren box and toggle switch panel in brackets, either shop made or purchased from emergency equipment suppliers. These brackets were mounted from the floor, bottom of the dash or overhead depending on the Department’s preference. The holes in your dash may have been for a standard factory radio or a creative installation of the service radio. Firetrucks, especially those owned by smaller departments had very creative ways to mount all sorts of equipment, usually done by the firemen themselves.

The transmission is as I suspected, a spicer 3152.

When I talked to the guy who did most of this trucks maintenance, he said it was possible it had multiple radios over its life. It has two holes near where a rear view would go, as well as a few on the dash. He also believed it had a whip antenna on one of the doors which is no longer there, maybe the factory mirror mount location? What kinds of radios might they have used?

If anyone knows of an old federal siren that would fit the 4 holes in my fender, I would love to stick one back on.

The holes above the windshield could have held a speaker like this...

A radio head like this would have been mounted below the dash, the main radio box would have been very large (approximately 16"L x 12"w x 4"d) and could have been under or behind the seat.

Check out these web sites to see all the different sirens. If you can't find a vintage picture of your truck you'll need to measure you base holes and see what might have been bolted on the fender as the bolt patterns are all different. Small local fire companies didn't have money for big Federal "Q" sirens, they used something smaller or made by another manufacturer like Sterling or Sireno.

http://dcaptain.com/vintagesirens.html

http://www.sirenman.com/

Mike B

Interesting bit I found out at a show yesterday, my truck is on its third engine! Apparently the 348 couldnt handle all the pumping.(still a 348 now)

It's always fun to learn more of the history on our vehicles!

Mike B