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bakerman #1454315 Tue Jun 07 2022 02:03 PM
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E10 in the original tank has to be used up or if months old, drained.
I'm senior and lazy.
I may forget how old the E10 gas is, or forget to drain it or don't want the hassle to catch and recycle the old gasoline.
Non-ethanol is nearby in my area and is used regularly. Farmers and anyone who has older equipment swear by it.

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"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
bakerman #1454316 Tue Jun 07 2022 02:13 PM
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Nearly a year of not riding my Harley due to medical issues has trashed the carburetor. Good thing I've got a spare to rebuild and swap out so I can do some riding this summer!
Jerry


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bakerman #1454322 Tue Jun 07 2022 02:28 PM
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Leave it to ethanol to foul another carburetor. headscratch

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bakerman #1454630 Thu Jun 09 2022 09:53 PM
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'Bolter
Thanks to each of you for reponding to my question...It appears that I will continue to use ethanol free....this just means my costs will go up but driving my truck is a special time for me


Hope to see some of you at Back to the 50'd in 2 weeks
Again Thank You
Craig

Last edited by bakerman; Thu Jun 09 2022 09:54 PM. Reason: spelling
bakerman #1455027 Mon Jun 13 2022 05:12 PM
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'Bolter
The ethanol or not discussion has been going on for decades. There are lovers and haters. Here in my area of Eastern Tennessee most stations have a pump with ethanol free premium, but as others stated, about $1 more. I run regular E10 in everything including the lawn mower, and did in my 50 Chevy 216 years ago — with no problems. Your mileage may vary.


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bakerman #1455060 Mon Jun 13 2022 11:07 PM
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Cut and paste, not my words:
Because of ethanol's affinity for water, gasoline oxygenated with ethanol is generally not transported in pipelines like traditional motor fuel. Instead, it is added to gasoline tanker trucks at the terminal level in order to keep its possible exposure to water at a minimum.

All gas stations that sell Ethanol gasoline have issues to deal with, again not my words:
Why is phase separation a problem?
* Phase separation sinks to the bottom of your tank and, if undetected, can be pumped straight into your customers' vehicles, causing stall-outs at your site and costly repairs for which you may be liable for.
* The corrosive nature of phase separation can result in the need for expensive tank repairs and remediation. The costs of purging your system, replacing dispenser filters, and disposing of contaminated fuel can easily run more than $10,000.
* Ethanol boosts octane levels, but when ethanol mixes with water to create phase separation, the remaining gasoline is depleted of ethanol, lowering its octane level and making it ineligible for legal sale.

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"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
bakerman #1455061 Mon Jun 13 2022 11:14 PM
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My point is that if gas stations can have problems with Ethanol you can bet your "Sweet Bippy" that old steel truck tanks can have problems too.


"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
bakerman #1455063 Mon Jun 13 2022 11:20 PM
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Why not use a water separating fuel filter like I have on my boat and my Dodge/Cummins if you have concerns? The latter is part of a FASS fuel system and has a spigot to drain any aqueous phase now and then.


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bakerman #1455065 Mon Jun 13 2022 11:47 PM
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The FASS system would work if you also had a fuel tank that is Ethanol resistant. On your boat and Dodge/Cummings, most likely all components downstream of the fuel tank is made to run on the modern respective fuel. I think everybody here knows that the rubber lines, fuel pump diaphragms and carburetor diaphragms (at least Carter) will dissolve if not upgraded to Ethanol tolerant. So after doing all this upgrade you have a superior system that is able to run Ethanol gasoline. It's the owner's choice. I choose to run non-ethanol so that I don't have to upgrade.


"Adding CFM to a truck will only help at engine speeds you don't want to use."
"I found there was nothing to gain beyond 400 CFM."
bakerman #1455066 Mon Jun 13 2022 11:48 PM
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Maybe additives in our tanks. Like Heet and STA-BIL.


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