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TUTS 59 #1451918 Tue May 17 2022 12:03 PM
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Crusty Old Sarge
Tom,
I'm used to doing thing by myself, I even had a plan for lifting the wall section into place. I have a HOA named Linda that's 4' 9" that said "NO".

I was going to attach a 10k rated strap to the opposite footing an loop it over the post on my lift and use a come-along to winch it it place. well the "BOSS" caught me rigging it all together and put the brakes on the whole process. I have tried to explain to her that in a past life I was a Combat Engineer and trained to handle unique situations, she still said "NO". Happy wife happy life, so now I'll wait a couple of days and get the crew together to set this wall. thumbs_up


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
TUTS 59 #1451927 Tue May 17 2022 12:40 PM
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'Bolter
yeah, I get it. Best to wait if you know extra hands and strong backs are on the way. What's the rush? Sometimes, as you know, its best to slow down to speed up. I always had to "work on" my patience at times wanting to see how the project will look and forcing myself to take it one step, one bolt, one cut at at a time. Most certainly it is a disciplined mindset to accomplish outstanding work and results you can live with. Good posting!

Last edited by tom moore; Tue May 17 2022 03:31 PM.
TUTS 59 #1451964 Tue May 17 2022 09:06 PM
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'Bolter
Tut,
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I will have to price a decent nail gun. I would like to have a cordless but I do have a compressor for a pneumatic type.
Have you considered renting a nail gun? When finished just return the gun.
Type brunswick,ga. nail gun rental in your browser.
All sorts of options in your browser
Harold[b][/b]

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Harold
Is a restoration ever finished?
TUTS 59 #1452224 Fri May 20 2022 05:40 PM
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'Bolter
I dream of a garage in which I can make a U-turn.


1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet [sandeace.com]

29 Years of Daily Driving. With a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
TUTS 59 #1452540 Mon May 23 2022 06:11 PM
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Crusty Old Sarge
Worked a lot on the framing this weekend, set the front wall and started the area for the breezeway.

I have settled on building my own trusses, the lumber will be about $1800.00 and the labor free. I plan on using a jig for the layout to keep all the trusses uniform. I want to run them 24 in on center. As the only weight that will supported is the roof panels I think 2x4's will be more than sufficient to use for truss framing.

I have a lot yet to work out on measurements and angles for cuts. More head scratching.

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Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
TUTS 59 #1452546 Mon May 23 2022 07:20 PM
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back yard wrench turner
Looks great! Good when a plan comes together 😀


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TUTS 59 #1452581 Tue May 24 2022 09:13 AM
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'Bolter
Are you building a standard truss, scissors truss or a truss with storage? I wish I had used a scissors truss to gain more ceiling height for at least half or 2/3 of floor space and other 1/3 for loft storage. Everything is a tradeoff. I built my own trusses too, but paid a structural engineer friend in beers and a dinner to give me the snow loads and design. 2x8 Rafters, 2x6 bottom chords... 24" o.c. 9/12 pitch. I don't think you need to worry about snow loads in Georgia - unless that freak storm drops a few feet. In hindsight - I should have just hired a truss company to build and deliver them...a lot of work. (to be honest, consider 2x6 rafters and bottom chords)

You can try a chalk layout on your shop floor for a full scale to layout a model truss and check your angles after calculating them.

Trigonometry and Pythagoras are your friends (many know this and just need a refresher...as for me? I had to start all over and re-learn these math skills). If there is a local HS math teacher there, buy him or her some beers and a dinner - and sit there to do the calculations for angles and lengths. (don't forget to add the rafter tail length after you calculate the rafter length...and a little extra to snap a chalk line on the tails after the trusses are up to make a nice straight fascia line.)

There are Trig Apps too to download into your phone. You will know several variables: the 90 degree angle, length from the one half of building width, Height of the roof - that will give you two legs of the triangle and more than likely you can calculate the hypotenuse (rafter) , opposite and complementary angles.

You may calculate the angles in 100th's of an inch. If you can acquire a framing square in 100th's that will help. Bit not necessary - just convert inch fractions to decimal....but you know this anyhow. smile

Last edited by tom moore; Tue May 24 2022 12:25 PM.
TUTS 59 #1452592 Tue May 24 2022 12:20 PM
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Tom,
I searched the web for truss calculators and found several that give you the the corrected angles and lengths required. The two truss builders I have locally were going to frame a standard truss from 2x4's, the overall length would be 28ft with a 3/12 pitch. I had thought of using 2x6's for construction but the cost almost doubles. Given that the overall roof load will only the roof panels, trim and hardware and a 26 gauge panel is 0.88 lbs per sq foot I believe 2x4's 24in on center will be more than sufficient.

The last snow that had any accumulation here was in 1989, that was 2 inches. For me the main concern is the wind rating and hurricane fasteners required by code. We are required to add steel strapping to the trusses at the point where they meet the top plates every 48 inches. I lean toward the side of caution and will more than likely double up on the requirements and add strapping on each truss.

I have several sheets of 1/2in plywood left from another project and considered using these to form an actual pattern for the trusses, I think it will aid in keeping my framing uniform. I will be ordering the lumber this week so I will need to make a decision.

Last edited by TUTS 59; Tue May 24 2022 12:23 PM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
TUTS 59 #1452593 Tue May 24 2022 12:28 PM
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'Bolter
You are well on your way! Nice job. I almost didnt go into details - but posted anyhow for the curious minded who will read this long after I am gone. I admire your effort!

Last edited by tom moore; Tue May 24 2022 12:29 PM.
TUTS 59 #1452972 Fri May 27 2022 01:37 PM
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Crusty Old Sarge
Ordered more lumber for the trusses this morning. 80 2x4x16's, came in at $1168.35, got a 10% Veterans discount for this weekend. Every nickel counts. I'll pick up the lumber the first of the week.


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
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