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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1437956 Wed Jan 19 2022 11:01 PM
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Here are pages from the 47-55 Factory Assembly Manual. Hope this helps a little.
I scanned them in using normal resolution. I can go higher for better detail if needed.

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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1437957 Wed Jan 19 2022 11:25 PM
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It may be possible to use a nut splitter to break off the nuts saving the original carriage bolts. Not the new style but the old style. You can buy a vintage “Nutsplitter” by H.K. Porter on eBay which is what I have. I have used it numerous times on my truck. The cutting edges on the tool can be rotated so the tool can be inserted between the channel. I looked at my truck and the tool and it looks like it will work.

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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1437965 Thu Jan 20 2022 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WICruiser
I did receive the full size inner cowls but they are painted black? I had looked at getting the half panels but was concerned that they were too short to resolve the upper end of the damaged area on the original panels. I could order the lower half panels as you suggest but wonder if the problems that you experienced were related to panels from a different supplier.

I have laid the floor panels over the existing and they seem to overlap rather than having a gap but the assessment is very preliminary.

I did reattach the rear cab mounts to the cab and installed the driver's side front mounting bolt to secure the cab in location. When the weather improves I plan to start work on the passenger side floor/inner cowl area as the mounting hole on that side is in poor condition. I plan to shim the cab floor to the frame as far forward as possible to provide support prior to removing material.

On a separate subject can anyone provide tips regarding running board bolt removal? I am not sure if they are original but the bolts have square nuts and the best fitting socket I have is a 13mm 12-point. The bolts start to rotate once I get the nut loosened and given how everything is tucked up inside the mounting frame and under the running board it seems impossible to access the bolt to prevent rotation. I wouldn't mind cutting the bolts if I can find a way to gain access to ensure that I am not cutting anything except the bolt.
My info about the poorly formed full inner cowl panel may well be dated. Your black panels may well be correct. It would make my day if the supplier finally corrected this issue! Please let us know how they fit. You will know right away. smile

Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1438017 Thu Jan 20 2022 01:46 PM
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'Bolter
Thanks for the additional information. When it warms up and I can get to back to work on the cab and running boards I will provide updates.


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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
Phak1 #1438050 Thu Jan 20 2022 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Phak1
It may be possible to use a nut splitter to break off the nuts saving the original carriage bolts. Not the new style but the old style. You can buy a vintage “Nutsplitter” by H.K. Porter on eBay which is what I have. I have used it numerous times on my truck. The cutting edges on the tool can be rotated so the tool can be inserted between the channel. I looked at my truck and the tool and it looks like it will work.
That's an awesome tool. thumbs_up
I saw a few of them just now on eBay, and it also highlighted H.K. Porter bolt cutters, which might be able to be used as a nut splitter, assuming you have enough room to fit them into the space and for the handles.
I used to be able to cut nuts off bolts with a cutting torch and leave the bolts usable. It's been years since I've tried that, so I might be a bit "rusty". wink


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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1439136 Fri Jan 28 2022 01:20 PM
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'Bolter
I was able to remove the running boards. The bolts I had not loosened I broke using the tighten rather than loosen method but the ones I had already loosened I could not get the head to engage to tighten so I cut them with a dremel cut-off wheel. In the process I discovered that the rear driver's side support bracket was broken between the top and bottom rivets so I will need to weld that as part of my frame restoration. While it will be a while before I need them I should begin my search for the special running board attachment bolts unless there is a better alternative?


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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1439159 Fri Jan 28 2022 06:05 PM
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Glad you were able to get those bolts out.

No need to search real hard for replacement running board bolts - Jim Carter sells them, along with most other vendors. Here's a link. [oldchevytrucks.com]


Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1439197 Fri Jan 28 2022 10:35 PM
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'Bolter
Thanks for the link, I can't recall if I already had it book marked (I have several of the vendors book marked).

I assumed that they would be readily available and that I would probably be replacing them just in principle given their age.


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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1439447 Sun Jan 30 2022 09:32 PM
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'Bolter
Looking at my cab floor it appears that there was what I assume was a seat riser removed (front and both sides, but not back) at some time, see pictures attached.

I am not anticipating installing an original bench seat so I don't think it will be too much of a problem but I am guess that at least across the front the riser provided stiffness to the floor panel, regardless of what seats I eventually install should I be planning to fabricate a reinforcement as part of my cab repairs?

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Re: 1949 Cab Repair
WICruiser #1439454 Sun Jan 30 2022 09:52 PM
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That seat riser definitely provides some stiffness to the floor and helps keep it from sagging in the middle. My suggestion would be to install a channel below the floor where the front of the seat riser was. And possibly something in the location of the rear partition (that's partially gone in your truck). I'd suggest something called a hat channel (~|_|~ ) spot welded along each flange to the floor. Something about 3/4" deep could be installed extending between the frame rails. IIRC, the floor is supposed to be 3/4" above the frame, so you wouldn't want it close enough to hit the frame rails. You could also use that as reinforcement for your seat mounting.


Kevin
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
Busting rust since the mid-60's
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