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Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1429631 Tue Nov 09 2021 02:38 PM
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I finally did some research of the front frame clip and the Corvette rear suspension. I near as I can place it the front subframe is a 2nd generation Camaro, 70-72, the upper control arms and ball joints cross over to those years along with the disc brakes. The Corvette rear is from and 80-82, the aluminum cross member and leaf spring mount fit that era Vett, the trailing arms and bushings are unique to this set up.

Knowing what I have to start with helps a great deal, it doesn't help with how it was installed. I am finished running the front brake lines and am working on the rear. For safety sake I am replacing all the hoses and brake lines as I go, most of the hoses were too dry rotted to consider reusing anyway. At least once I'm done I know it will stop.

I have replaced the HEI with a RTR (ready to run) distributor from Summit along with plugs and wires. I had it running but just couldn't get the timing anywhere close to where it should be. To get it to start and run the timing at the crank showed 35 degrees advanced, I have since opted to replace the timing chain. I will also be adding a Holley Sniper EFI as my BIL is insisting on going away from the carb. This will be my first venture into the stand alone EFI so it will no doubt come with a learning curve.

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New Distributor
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Last edited by TUTS 59; Tue Nov 09 2021 02:44 PM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1430116 Sun Nov 14 2021 03:40 PM
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I finished the running the brake lines. I mounted the rear line over the differential rather than under like it was when we got it. All the lines have been secured with retainers and have residual pressure valves front and rear. I still need to mont the pedal assembly and bleed the system.

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Rear Brake Lines
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Residual Pressure Valves

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1434917 Tue Dec 28 2021 01:06 PM
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I have this week off and decided to tackle some of the problems on the Death Trap. I mounted the transmission crossmember and changed the motor mounts. I used a 2 inch drop crossmember from CPP, to get the correct u-joint angle I had to add a couple of shims. The engine angle wound up being 7 degrees, I was trying to get it closer to 4 or 5 but was limited by the drop in the front clip. The driveshaft is centered and both transmission and rear differential are at the same angle.

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Original Crossmember
Last edited by TUTS 59; Tue Dec 28 2021 02:12 PM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1436089 Tue Jan 04 2022 11:22 PM
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Wow! Your BIL is lucky to have you around! Big difference and it looks professional!

PS. I see your getting good use of that lift!

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Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1436093 Wed Jan 05 2022 12:10 AM
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It would be better use if it had my truck on it. grin


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1440558 Wed Feb 09 2022 01:07 PM
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I have been trying to devote a few minutes each evening to getting something on this project. I finished bending up the transmission cooler lines and getting them installed. A lot of that was time consuming as I would need to work around the Camaro front clip and the 57's radiator core support. Either way that is completed.

I have also been working out the fuel lines for the EFI. The system requires a feed and return line, the return is supposed to connect back to the tank. The tank is a Mustang type with the sending unit mounted in the lower portion of the front, there is no provision for a return line. Holley recommends mounting the return in the top of the tank with a tube running to the bottom. There is no hole large enough to get a wrench through let alone my hand.

the work around I came up with is to feed the return line back to the feed line. I used a tee fitting installed just prior to the first filter and before the fuel pump. I routed the return line along the feed line to the front inside the passenger side frame rail. From there the fuel lines must transition the the back of the firewall and up to the throttle body. I haven't worked out the transition as yet, it must cross over the transmission bellhousing and up from there.

Most of this is trial and error, bend and fit, so it has taken some time to get this far. had this been my project solely I would have managed all of this prior to mounting the cab and bed.

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Fuel Lines 2
Last edited by TUTS 59; Wed Feb 09 2022 01:11 PM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1442592 Fri Feb 25 2022 01:06 AM
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I have finally finished the Sniper EFI conversion. The kit from Holley is complete with everything you will need to install the EFI and wire and program the system. I had to fight all of the s#@t work the had been done to the truck from PO's, you can tell that this truck has changed hand more than a few times, nothing seems to be consistent.

I had clearance problems from the start, the fuel lines had to routed around the corvette rear, the exhaust and transmission. Running the feed and return line up the back of the firewall was a bear, it was tight and the firewall had been hacked up previously. The throttle body simply bolts in place as would a 4 barrel, is is prewired with a TPS, IAC, MAS and temp sensor. Adding the O2 sensor to the exhaust was painless as Holley supplies a threaded plate, gasket and band clamps. I had to resort to using hose clamps as the supplied bands were to large for the exhaust tubes. I added a Lokar bracket and throttle cable kit designed to work with the Sniper EFI, that was money well spent.

The problem again wasn't the EFI but the truck, the area behind the EFI is crammed with vacuum lines and wiring. Adding the EFI wiring to this just compounded the mess. Once I had everything in place it was easy to program up, select a few options on the display and you're ready to run. The one complaint I have with the Holley system is the fuel pump, it's LOUD, I MEAN LOUD. It's mounted at the rear of the truck (the tank is under the bed) on isolators and you can still hear it over the engine and exhaust.

So you want to know "Would you use the setup again"? Well "NO", not without some prior planning that didn't happen on this build. Adding this type of system requires clearance and proper layout. As for the truck it fired right up , adjust the idle screw to match the setting you programmed into the display and you are done, the EFI does all the rest. It's responsive and runs great at any speed, of course take into consideration all of the other things I have fixed of the engine.

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Sniper EFI
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Lokar Throttle Linkage
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Area behind EFI
Last edited by TUTS 59; Fri Feb 25 2022 01:09 AM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1442594 Fri Feb 25 2022 01:29 AM
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Nice work Craig. Your BIL is extremely lucky to have you arround!


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Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1442618 Fri Feb 25 2022 04:01 AM
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On one of my race cars with EFI and a fuel cell we used a low pressure pump to a fuel filter canister, pumped high pressure out and ran the return back to that canister, something like a Canton with a alum housing and drop in filter


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Re: 57" Chop Top project "Death Trap"
TUTS 59 #1442639 Fri Feb 25 2022 02:07 PM
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My BIL is complaining that I take to long on these projects. I told him if he would buy a piece of "Sh%t" every time it wouldn't be that involved. He has threatened to hang a sign on my shop "Sloth Garage". I wonder if he would like flames on his 57' grin


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
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