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Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
#1432121 Thu Dec 02 2021 09:52 PM
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I find the sheer volume of "information" on staining and finishing bed wood to be overwhelming with no simple answers. I need simple. My goal is to go with the "black wood" and I'd like to use something on the order of tung oil or maybe linseed oil tinted with whatever is required to get that dull black finish. Having to recoat with an oil/ coating every year or so isn't an issue for me. What advice can someone provide ? All help appreciated.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1432129 Thu Dec 02 2021 10:57 PM
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Bubba - Curmudgeon
Mar-K did extensive tests :

"Oak boards, coated with three brushed coats of POR-15 Rust Preventative Paint three hours apart, then three coats brushed Behr best quality black exterior latex enamel, three hours apart."

I have done this on pine boards with excellent results : semi-gloss black paints

Southern Yellow Pine was supposedly used for bed wood on Stovebolt trucks.


Tim
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- If you have to stomp on your foot-pedal starter, either you, or your starter, or your engine, has a problem.
- The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" - this is a splash oiler. [chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com]
Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433792 Fri Dec 17 2021 12:51 AM
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Thanks Tim, appreciate the information.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433831 Fri Dec 17 2021 11:21 AM
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Check out this technique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUixj8egCNM

I used on rough sawn red oak. I am happy with result. Recoated with oil at the 18 month mark and it went on easy and really freshened things up. Easy and if it a look you like, I recommend.

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Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433913 Fri Dec 17 2021 11:46 PM
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Hambone , thank you for the information. This got me to thinking that if Chip used acetone and black automotive paint to make his "ebony stain" , I wonder if I could use the body color ocean green paint and acetone to make a "green stain". I'll do some experimentation. Foose said he used teak oil to finish it and explained his reasoning. What he didn't make clear was what type of teak oil ? My research comes up with a bunch of different "colors", clear, matte, greystone, etc...
What type of teak oil did you use?


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

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Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433917 Sat Dec 18 2021 12:07 AM
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Good question I don't know the answer to. The can that Lowes sells. Did not even pay attention to the finish tone.
I expect you could use any color paint and most types of paint. Also it is real easy to play with and test mixture ratio to get the color you want.


HB

1966 Chevrolet K-10
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Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433949 Sat Dec 18 2021 03:27 AM
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One thing that has not been mentioned here, where will the truck/bed live? Garage queen, always outdoors, hauling things, etc. It matters. If the truck will spend most of its life indoors and only sees sunlight or car wash occasionally, use any finish that gets the appearance that you want. If always outdoors, then your choices become much more limited for a long term durable finish. I visited Mar-K recently and looked at the wood finish tests which are still ongoing. The black painted Behr over POR is showing some weathering but still appears to be a solid finish in the test. These have been continuously outdoors in the Oklahoma weather since about 2005. I don't remember that any other finish in the test lasted more than a year outdoors, most were failed within six months. I know the Mar-K tests were limited and that there have likely been technological advances in finishes and techniques since 2005. If there is another finish that has shown good outdoors results, this would be good information to know. Hambone, I would be particularly interested in the success of your teak oil finish.

Mark

Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1433960 Sat Dec 18 2021 04:19 AM
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Hambone - I think I had a senior moment , if I'm going to use a "paint" color, I'd likely want to use a clear teak oil. You are correct, testing will be the answer.

59Fleet - After thinking about your question I'm going to go with Garaged, but driven and used. So I think the stain and oil might work well for me.

Thanks for everyone's input, much appreciated. Now if I could just get the weather to cooperate.


Ronnie
1954 Chevy 3604 - A work in progress...

" You can't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you're still in hell"
Re: Help with finishing bed wood to black. 1954 3604
Dusty53 #1434032 Sat Dec 18 2021 08:35 PM
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I will get some more and better pictures of my bed(s). I did my 62 C10 with the POR and Behr treatment per Mar-K in the 2008 timeframe. Holding up as advertised. The bed pictured above (66 K10) used leftover Behr black from the 62 project. Both trucks live in the garage but are not shy about getting out and about in the wx.

Last edited by Hambone; Sat Dec 18 2021 08:37 PM.

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