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willard49 #1430498 Wed Nov 17 2021 08:12 PM
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Get a piece of water pipe to extend the breaker bar, also helps to tie down the yoke, I use a 48” pipe wrench for that.

Ed


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willard49 #1430584 Thu Nov 18 2021 03:31 PM
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Diesel repair shops have what is called a "torque multiplier" which fits on a breaker bar where the socket goes. A 100#'s on the handle gives 200#'s at the socket or they make them where a 100#'s at the handle gives 400#'s at the socket. A bit pricey for one time use but Home Depot sells them so their tool rental probably rents them.


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willard49 #1430606 Thu Nov 18 2021 07:08 PM
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The shop I ran when in the Army had a torque multiplier for working on tanks. It looked like it took two guys to carry it. One of those probably isn't needed for this project.

Ed hit the nail on the head when he recommended using something to hold on to the yoke. I have used a flat bar drilled for the yoke bolts and with a hole for the socket to clear. That and a cheater on the breaker bar should do the trick.


Kevin
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willard49 #1430625 Thu Nov 18 2021 10:02 PM
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The flat bar works well. I drilled a piece of leaf spring and use it to react the torque to the ground or to the frame. Also be certain that the cotter pin has been completely removed. They rust over time and it can be hard to get all of the pin out in one piece. You may even be able to get the socket over the nut with remnants of the old cotter pin still in place and not notice it.

willard49 #1430694 Fri Nov 19 2021 02:07 PM
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I broke out my 3/4" air gun for it's first use and it wasn't up to the job. I went to the local rentall and they said they didn't have a 3/4" air gun. On the way out I thought, I wonder if they have a 3/4" electric. It turns out they did and it worked fine. I eventually got my 3/4" air tool working. It turns out that the oil inside from the factory did not work well after sitting in a cold garage!

willard49 #1435760 Sun Jan 02 2022 08:30 PM
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The socket in my harbor freight 1 inch set fits without modification. I used a 6 ft cheater and was still a tough job.


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willard49 #1435763 Sun Jan 02 2022 08:46 PM
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An Eaton 15 speed transmission/rear end setup I worked on once had a power divider input flange (pinion) nut that required 1200 ft/lbs of torque! The boss (350 lbs.) and myself (200 lbs) bouncing on the end of a 6 foot cheater bar had a hard time loosening it. We broke two 3/4" drive breaker bars before I finally gave up and split the nut with a hammer and chisel. A new nut, some never-seez, and that same cheater bar with a bit less energetic bouncing got us back on the road after repairing some stripped gears.
Jerry


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willard49 #1436460 Fri Jan 07 2022 08:47 PM
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I have used a bottle jack under a stout 3/4 drive breaker bar and a very large pipe wrench wedged against the floor to hold the yoke. It didn't lift the truck but I could see it un-weight the tires. On big trucks like Jerry worked on sometimes it's just about impossible to get them loose. Fortunately on a truck tractor you can get a good swing with a 3# maul and a big chisel to spread the nut, breaking the rust. Sometimes the fifth wheel is in the way, sigh. Sometimes it takes a torch and a rosebud to heat the nut. But sometimes it's a tanker that had gasoline on last, sigh again. Before you mung up the nut make sure you can get another one. I had to make a castle-nut out of a nylock one time.


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willard49 #1436470 Fri Jan 07 2022 09:56 PM
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A 1" square drive tire impact wrench with a whittled-down socket comes in handy for removing the pinion nut if you're working on those big rig differentials on a regular basis. Just don't use it to tighten the nuts- - - -it can gall expensive pinion bearings.
Jerry


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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!

There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.
Ernest Hemingway

WAG MORE- - - - - -BARK LESS!
willard49 #1436473 Fri Jan 07 2022 10:07 PM
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There was a day that I could lift one of those.


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