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#1423348 Wed Sep 08 2021 07:27 PM
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In my past trade, if an action is not documented, it didn’t happen.
So, this will be the picture thread that proves we did have the Reunion this year.
I’ll start it off.
Two pork shoulders and a big Dutch oven of beans on the smoker for Saturday’s meal.

Don

Edit: Well, the shadows made that look pretty poor. But trust me, the smoked pulled pork will be good!
Oh, and those are fresh out of the garden cherry tomato’s in the beans.

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Last edited by 2-Ton; Wed Sep 08 2021 07:32 PM.

Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423429 Thu Sep 09 2021 04:27 PM
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Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
The adventure begins

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Odark thirty

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423431 Thu Sep 09 2021 04:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
On the road to Alvin's, met a guy from Jacksonville he was headed to Peigon Forge.

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64 C10

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423433 Thu Sep 09 2021 04:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 542
D
Unconventional Thinker
Originally Posted by 2-Ton
In my past trade, if an action is not documented, it didn’t happen.
So, this will be the picture thread that proves we did have the Reunion this year.
I’ll start it off.
Two pork shoulders and a big Dutch oven of beans on the smoker for Saturday’s meal.

Don

Edit: Well, the shadows made that look pretty poor. But trust me, the smoked pulled pork will be good!
Oh, and those are fresh out of the garden cherry tomato’s in the beans.

Looks tasty!


Shane

Shane's Toys...
2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner)
1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner)
1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner)
1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
2-Ton #1423439 Thu Sep 09 2021 05:49 PM
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Tuts, what are you and Alvin riding in? Driving that distance, we understand not being in an old truck.
Supposed to be 95 degrees Saturday.

Vicki and I are starting to load up. She has been baking cookies all morning. Picked up a bunch of dogs this morning for Friday evening and maybe Saturday.
Hope to be at Mongo’s garage by 3pm tomorrow.

Safe Travels Everyone!
Don

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Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423442 Thu Sep 09 2021 06:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
Don we are cruising along in Alvin's Silverado


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423456 Thu Sep 09 2021 09:19 PM
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Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
Gas stop in Lebanon Tennessee

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Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423468 Thu Sep 09 2021 10:33 PM
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Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
We are in Kentucky


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423472 Thu Sep 09 2021 11:02 PM
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Got the 65 GMC loaded up today and should be getting on I-70 at Kingdom City about 10:30 am tomorrow.
So far, I have only had three of Vicki’s cookies, still warm out of the oven!

Don

Edit: How do you like the camper shell?

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Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423477 Thu Sep 09 2021 11:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
We just crossed into Illinois


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423478 Thu Sep 09 2021 11:58 PM
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Guess you are not crossing over to Missouri tonight?

Don

Last edited by 2-Ton; Fri Sep 10 2021 12:00 AM.

Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423507 Fri Sep 10 2021 03:07 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
We stopped just outside of St Louis for the night. About 150 miles to go.


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423512 Fri Sep 10 2021 03:45 AM
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Let me guess? Fairview Heights area? Hwy 159 and I-64. St. Clair Square is also there.
Don’t forget the Chic-Fel-A, just south of the interstate for breakfast!
I have heard that Larry Flint has a entertainment center around that area.
Don’t travel to far off the interstate until you get into Missouri. And even then, don’t go on the north side.

Keep us updated on your trip with pictures and we’ll meet up somewhere tomorrow!
Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423521 Fri Sep 10 2021 06:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 799
Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator)
I made a shirt to wear on Saturday in solidarity with the crew since I won't make it this year.

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From the Rocky Mountains?
Check in with the RM Bolters!

HiPo Forum Moderator

1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420
Driveable but the rear axle needs work.
2-Ton #1423525 Fri Sep 10 2021 11:02 AM
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Fib, Is there a copyright on that? We may have to use that design next year!

Don

Last edited by 2-Ton; Fri Sep 10 2021 12:06 PM.

Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423537 Fri Sep 10 2021 02:07 PM
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
We'll be on the road in about a half hour.
Safe Travels everyone!

Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423543 Fri Sep 10 2021 02:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 4,507
Moderator - The Electrical Bay and Rocky Mountain Bolters
Have a great time and safe travels to all.


Another quality post.


Real Trucks Rattle

HELP! The Paranoids are after me!
2-Ton #1423544 Fri Sep 10 2021 03:04 PM
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Posts: 2,532
J
Workshop Owner
We should leaving Omaha between 2 and 3 and will be camping 30 miles North of Independence, at Smithville. Not sure if we'll make it to Mongo's tonight. If not, see you in the morning.

John


J Lucas


1941 Chevy 1/2-Ton
1942 Chevy 1.5-Ton SWB
1959 Chevy Apache 31 Fleetside
1959 Chevy Apache 32 Fleetside
1969 Chevy C-50 Grain Truck

My Flicker Photos! [flickr.com]

Fibonachu #1423565 Fri Sep 10 2021 05:20 PM
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Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
Originally Posted by Fibonachu
I made a shirt to wear on Saturday in solidarity with the crew since I won't make it this year.

I'll take one in an Xlrg thumbs_up


Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423576 Fri Sep 10 2021 08:07 PM
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Posts: 4,610
Authorized Pest
Was wondering if you all will have a nice day. Looks sunny but a bit warm.

Keep hydrated.

Have fun. Keep adding pictures.

pix


Peggy M
I distinctly remember forgetting that. grin
2-Ton #1423583 Fri Sep 10 2021 09:13 PM
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Posts: 2,532
J
Workshop Owner
On our way! Well…I,Theresa, Johns better half, have been trying to figure out how to attach a photo for about an hour now. If one shows up…yay! If not, oh well.

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J Lucas


1941 Chevy 1/2-Ton
1942 Chevy 1.5-Ton SWB
1959 Chevy Apache 31 Fleetside
1959 Chevy Apache 32 Fleetside
1969 Chevy C-50 Grain Truck

My Flicker Photos! [flickr.com]

2-Ton #1423592 Fri Sep 10 2021 10:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,567
W
'Bolter
thumbs_up. Roughing it I see. yahoo


Ron, The Computer Greek
I love therefore I am.

1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
1954 3100 Chevy truck in the Gallery [stovebolt.com]
2017 Buick Encore
See more pix [photos.google.com]
2-Ton #1423611 Sat Sep 11 2021 02:05 AM
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Pictures!

Edit; Due to The Queen Bee’s request, I’ll try and write something about some of the photos.

#1, Mongo in the air conditioned part of the garage.
#2, Jim from Detroit and Tuts from Georgia.
#3, Mike Taylor and Jim’s son Tom, from Detroit.
#4, Alvin, Tuts and Vicki.
#5, Mongo and the local Boy Scout troop Scout Master in the shop.
#6, Jim, Mike, and Tuts back in the AC with at the snack table.

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Last edited by 2-Ton; Tue Sep 14 2021 02:13 AM.

Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423620 Sat Sep 11 2021 04:26 AM
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Posts: 5,290
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Just got back to the cheap hotel and it has been a great day at Mongo’s garage.
Plenty of hot dogs and beans were consumed along with Vicki’s made from scratch cookies.
T shirts were inventoried and ready to distribute tomorrow.
Boy Scout flag retirement ceremony tomorrow morning and then back to the garage to wrench and tell stories.
Vicki will be making scrap material rugs and will show anyone who wants to learn how.
The guys will be going over the 65 GMC with the 292.
More dogs and pulled pork is on the menu along with a big pot of baked beans.

More pictures to prove the epic event happened will follow tomorrow.
Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423622 Sat Sep 11 2021 05:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 799
Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator)
Looks like a fantastic time is being had by all!


From the Rocky Mountains?
Check in with the RM Bolters!

HiPo Forum Moderator

1958 Apache, long bed Fleetside, V8 w/SM420
Driveable but the rear axle needs work.
2-Ton #1423629 Sat Sep 11 2021 12:44 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,513
“Grease Monkey” “Former herder of cats”
Miss you guys. Would love to meet Alvin but it will have to wait for another time. Y’all have fun!
:nopics: nanner
Ole Blue is there in sprit!

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Last edited by Justhorsenround; Sat Sep 11 2021 12:47 PM.

Martin
'62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress)
'47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project)
‘65 Chevy Biscayne 4dr 230 I-6 one owner (I’m #2) “Emily”
‘39 Dodge Businessmans Coupe “Clarence”



"I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one!
Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop!
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2-Ton #1423630 Sat Sep 11 2021 01:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
At Mongo's yard.

Edit by Don;

#1, Tuts next to one of Mongo’s trucks.
#2, The front of Mongo’sDoodle Bug with the Stovebolt cast emblem on the front.
He had it at past reunions.
#3, Mongo and his new Doodle Bug with a boom and winch.

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Last edited by 2-Ton; Tue Sep 14 2021 02:21 AM.

Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423637 Sat Sep 11 2021 04:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,933
W
back yard wrench turner
Looks like a good time.


Wayne

When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it!

1938 1-Ton Farm Truck
-30-
Stovebolt Gallery Forums
2-Ton #1423644 Sat Sep 11 2021 06:46 PM
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2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
More pictures! These taken in the last hour.

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Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423645 Sat Sep 11 2021 07:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,567
W
'Bolter
Don the pictures remind me of what my son asked about our vacation pictures. Why are you not in the pictures daddy?????


Ron, The Computer Greek
I love therefore I am.

1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
1954 3100 Chevy truck in the Gallery [stovebolt.com]
2017 Buick Encore
See more pix [photos.google.com]
2-Ton #1423654 Sat Sep 11 2021 09:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,055
Crusty Old Sarge
2-Ton (Don) JLucas (John) and Jason (friend of Mongo's)

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Craig

Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
2-Ton #1423659 Sat Sep 11 2021 10:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,567
W
'Bolter
Now I know why. dang


Ron, The Computer Greek
I love therefore I am.

1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
1954 3100 Chevy truck in the Gallery [stovebolt.com]
2017 Buick Encore
See more pix [photos.google.com]
2-Ton #1423683 Sun Sep 12 2021 04:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,290
2
2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Back at the cheap hotel now, what a great day!!!
Good food, Good place to meet and great folks to hang out with.
Got to tour Mongo,s salvage yard and it was well worth the tour. That should be on the list of things to do next year.

Mongo bought the 65 GMC one ton from us, so we have an empty trailer for the ride home tomorrow.
More pictures later.

The Reunion is still alive!!
Don


Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423684 Sun Sep 12 2021 04:26 AM
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Posts: 5,290
2
2-Ton Offline OP
Drafted Moderator!
Vicki led a demo on making rugs out of rags.
Mike Taylor (oltrucks) was there the whole day. He says he can’t sign in on Stovebolt anymore, so we need to look into that issue.

But a good time was had by all!
Don

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Of all the things I've lost in my life, I miss my mind the most!

1967 GMC 9500 Fire Ladder Truck
"The Flag Pole"
In the Stovebolt Gallery [stovebolt.com]
'46 2-Ton grain truck
'50 2-ton flatbed
'54 Pontiac Straight Eight
1954 Plymouth Belvidere
'70 American LaFrance pumper fire truck.
2-Ton #1423897 Mon Sep 13 2021 11:14 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,610
Authorized Pest
These look fun.

Can anyone put some language to go with them images? It'll help give us a better idea of what went on.

Mongo has enough trucks in his lot to have his OWN IRWIPI calendar!! pix

Peg


Peggy M
I distinctly remember forgetting that. grin
2-Ton #1424171 Wed Sep 15 2021 09:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 186
1
'Bolter
Here are a few photos for documentation.
A couple around Don's For Sale truck, and a few in Mongo's Garage.

--Tom

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