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Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419335 Wed Aug 04 2021 01:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,476
Saltpeter, sulfur and hardwood charcoal. I'm sure you don't need the formula, but let me know if you do. Of course this doesn't work nearly as well as the powder you're used to, but it will explode and you can propel rockets with it. Actually if you'll mix it with talcum powder and sugar it will do pretty well in rockets. I doubt any semi-automatic would function as designed with black powder, but I'd bet manually operated guns would shoot...until the barrel was ruined, that is. You'd probably have to clean the gun after about every 5th shot. Maybe after every shot.


1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235
T5 with 3.07 rear end
Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419343 Wed Aug 04 2021 01:29 AM
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Warm water dissolves black powder salts in a hurry! Fortunately, the oldtime mountain men and "long hunters" who used BP guns carried a ready-made supply of that stuff. It was sort of yellow colored most of the time!

The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

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Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419347 Wed Aug 04 2021 01:45 AM
Joined: Nov 1995
Posts: 5,157
Unrepentant VW Lover
I think we're getting a little off topic here, gents ....


"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."
— C. S. Lewis

'49 Chevrolet 3804

Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419376 Wed Aug 04 2021 12:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,272
Crusty Old Sarge
The late Dale Walksler (Wheels Through Time Museum) had a great theory on old engine start up. He said that the engine didn't care how long it had set only that it was hot when it was last shut off. Some of the engines he would start had been setting foe 40 or 60 years, he would place a Hot Plate under the engine and allow the oil inside to get warm once again. He started many engines using this method.

The point here is I doubt that cranking an engine that had recently been run would be as hard on internal parts as and engine that hadn't been run for years. Personally I have no problem cranking an engine until it starts and the oil pressure comes up. I do however fill the oil filter when changing the oil prior to starting as most oil pumps pull from the filter first. (off my soap box)


Come, Bleed or Blister something has got to give!!!
59' Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)
Re: Degraded engine life?
52Carl #1419433 Wed Aug 04 2021 07:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 774
52 Carl On the pulling truck is a device that stores 60 lbsof oil pressure,flip the switch oil pressure goes on before you crank it !!

Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419492 Thu Aug 05 2021 09:16 AM
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Thanks to everyone for their responses! I’ve decided to go with an electrical fuel pump with regulator and return line for this project. I doubt I’ll see 100,000 miles out of this engine but if I ever decide to run boost I’ll be halfway there with the fuel system. I just couldn’t wrap my head around what the mechanic was saying. Thanks again to all for sharing their opinions!

1959 Apache 3200 stepside
SBC 350
Rebuilt M20 Transmission
Rebuilt GM 12 Bolt rear end
18" Detroit Steel D-Town Wheels
Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419495 Thu Aug 05 2021 12:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 4,363
If you use a small PULSE pump, you can do without the return line. The stock fuel pump will pull fuel through the PULSE pump so it can only be used for priming, it's a safer way to run electric pumps. Just wire it to a momentary push switch, once primed, you won't need it again. If you plan to run electric all the time, be sure to add an oil pressure safety switch which shuts the pump off when the engine has no oil pressure. Chevy VEGA's had such a switch and it's what everyone uses.

Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1419733 Sat Aug 07 2021 02:25 PM
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Posts: 774
Praetor I would think that choking your 383 every day wetting it with gasoline would be more harmful than worrying about oil supply. The bearings have an oil film that protects until oil gets there. Same on the cam.

Re: Degraded engine life?
52Carl #1420400 Thu Aug 12 2021 06:41 PM
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52 Carl replied

Re: Degraded engine life?
Praetor #1420555 Sat Aug 14 2021 01:19 AM
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Posts: 1,186
A little apples and bananas but, my old '95 12 valve Dodge Cummins has (generally) been starting on the first revolution for the past 26 years and 300,000 miles. When its been setting for a few weeks and not cranked, I sometimes think about dry starts but so far so good.


1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear
1970 340 Duster
1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain)
1951 Farmall Super A

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