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Re: Helping with a model A
Doc.Hall #1417943 Sat Jul 24 2021 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc.Hall
I had to stop working on a Erzats Model A for our local museum after I broke my back in Dec. The major thing different is it has a little bit strange looking Chevy 216 in it. I plan to start puttering around with it soon. I know it's a Chevy engine was there a different design in pre-30"s ? Doc.

You might have the earliest example of doing the "right" thing when building a hotrod Fword. smile

Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417946 Sat Jul 24 2021 04:46 AM
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Chevy started building overhead valve 6 cylinders in 1929, I believe. There was a 194 cubic inch engine, and later a 207. 1928 and before had a 4 cylinder, and WAY back there, Chevy had a V8. I believe the 216 came along around 1937 or so. The 194 and 207 engines were slightly longer than the 216, and had a somewhat different overall appearance than the 216.
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418006 Sat Jul 24 2021 08:32 PM
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I'm researching the possibility of putting a 16 valve dual overhead cam cylinder head on a Model A block. That should get some double takes at a car show when somebody rolls in with a stock-looking car and opens the hood!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418018 Sat Jul 24 2021 11:47 PM
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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418028 Sun Jul 25 2021 01:37 AM
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Indeed, Jerry -- What Ron said oh so much more eloquently than I wink Go for it!

Louis Chevrolet (Frontenac Head ...) would be proud of you!


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"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."
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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418032 Sun Jul 25 2021 02:10 AM
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Or maybe Zora Arkus-Duntov? His projects included the Ardun OHV heads on a flathead Ford V8- - - -AND- - - -most of the hotrod modifications to the small block Chevy V8 including the Rochester mechanical fuel injection and several cam profiles that made the corvette perform like it did!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418142 Sun Jul 25 2021 11:07 PM
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I knew that Wally Durant had more than a few problems with GM/Chevrolet over a period of his membership with THE BIG ONE and thought he jumped ship to THE BIG 2nd for a while. It seems that I read a story where he developed an air cooled four cylinder Chevy. Zora Arkus Duntov, Harley Earl along with DeLorian mixed with Carroll Shelby under the same roof would be unstoppable. Ed


Currently making 1954 3100 better than new and Genetics
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418146 Sun Jul 25 2021 11:58 PM
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Don't forget Charles Kettering, the guy who developed the electric starter, and designed the Oldsmobile and Cadillac OHV V8's. Rumor has it that Kettering designed the starter after a friend was killed when he was was hand cranking his car and the engine kicked back.

When the first 6 cylinder Plymouth rolled off the assembly line, Walter Chrysler drove it to Dearborn and gave it to Henry Ford. Ford DID NOT offer him a ride home!
Jerry


The murder victim was drowned in a bathtub full of Rice Krispies and milk.
The coroner blamed the crime on a cereal killer!

Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418256 Mon Jul 26 2021 10:07 PM
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This thread brings back memories. That engine wasn't stuck too bad if you got it freed up that way, Dave. I've been known to pull the head and crank and drive pistons out of the block with a 2x4.
What the guys told you is spot on. As far as the crank and spark retard lever, I have a scar on the point of my chin when I forgot to set it correctly and the crank pulled me down onto the radiator cap. Fortunately it didn't have a fancy ornament on it. I did see stars for a second. eek
I drove a Model A for 6-8 years as a kid, so if you have some specific questions feel free to call me. I still remember lots of the quirks. But they're pretty simple machines.
Oh yeah, If you get it running stay away from those copper spark plug connectors. I've gotten a few bruises on the back of my wrist from getting bit and whacking myself on the radiator support rods.


Kevin
First car '29 Ford Special Coupe
#2 - '29 Ford pickup restored from the ground up.
Newest Project - 51 Chevy 3100 work truck. Photos [flickr.com]
Busting rust since the mid-60's
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1418750 Fri Jul 30 2021 03:21 PM
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This is all too funny. South of here we have The Florida Flywheelers Village. It was started by a big bunch of Northern farmers and today it has a little bit of everything. Look it up on line, it is located in Auburndale, FL. They have a group of nuts, like us that disassemble and put together a model T and a model A ,3 times a day during their event times. It is a real hoot!
Come on down in November and February for a show that you will never forget. Better yet, look it up on line there may be some names there you will recognize. Doc


Currently making 1954 3100 better than new and Genetics
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