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Helping with a model A
#1417716 Thu Jul 22 2021 05:47 AM
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A neighborhood lady asked for help getting a model A running and safe to drive. Her husband died last year and she wants to get it going and drive it. My friend and I are going to give it a go. So far I have pulled the plugs and squirted in a 50/50 atf acetone mix, it is froze solid, it has sat for at least 10 years in her garage, unheated with a dirt floor. Not the best situation. After about 2 weeks I gave it a go today, still stuck so I got a little rougher on it, I stood on the hand crank and bounced up and down, still stuck. I just about gave up but tried putting it in 3rd gear and rocking it back and forth. SUCCESS! It broke free and turns over easily and smooth with the hand crank. Now I am going to haul it to my shop, change the oil and see if it will start. Picked up a new battery tonight, the old one was dead dead dead.

Any thoughts on what else to do before starting? I am going to squirt oil in the cylinders and spin it over with the starter with no plugs. Dave

Last edited by homer52; Thu Jul 22 2021 05:29 PM.

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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417719 Thu Jul 22 2021 09:19 AM
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:thumbs_upSounds like you are on the right path.


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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417724 Thu Jul 22 2021 11:46 AM
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clean the points - also clean bright and tight on the connections.

Last edited by tom moore; Thu Jul 22 2021 11:47 AM.
Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417728 Thu Jul 22 2021 12:19 PM
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Tom, be sure to read the Stovebolt Tech Tip on bringing a dead engine back to life. It could save you hours of extra work and quite a few dollars.


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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417730 Thu Jul 22 2021 12:51 PM
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Remove the valve side panel and make sure the valves are functioning properly before starting. The valves have a tendency to stick in the valve guides. The Model A is a positive ground system. Before starting the Steering column has 2 levers. The left is spark advance, the right is throttle. Position up on the left lever is retard, this needs to be all the way up before starting. Adjust it down to smooth out the engine after starting. The right is the throttle and needs to be 1/4 down. The fuel shut off valve is under the dash. The choke lever is on the right passenger side. Pull it out when starting. The choke lever is also the gas mixture control. After starting move it left or right for best running mixture. If it is a stock Model A the brakes are mechanical not hydraulic. The transmission does not have synchronizers.

Good Luck
Rick

Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417754 Thu Jul 22 2021 04:31 PM
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Wow, I just went to model A school! Thanks, I learned a lot. Dave


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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417764 Thu Jul 22 2021 06:22 PM
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Check/set the ignition timing. There is a tapered stud threaded into the timing cover that is removed, and reversed- - - -push the tapered end into the hole in the timing cover and rotate the engine slowly until the tip of the tool drops into a recess in the timing gear. With the engine in this position, set the point gap, then turn the distributor in the direction of rotation until the points close, and back up until they barely open. This sets the ignition timing correctly. It's the equivalent of aligning the ball and pointer on a stovebolt engine and static timing the distributor.
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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417809 Fri Jul 23 2021 01:09 AM
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Model A help on the Stovebolt web site ... You guys ROCK!!!!

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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417840 Fri Jul 23 2021 10:09 AM
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You have to remember John, that some on here were youngsters when a model A was new. yahoo Not me of course.


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Re: Helping with a model A
homer52 #1417917 Fri Jul 23 2021 09:37 PM
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I had to stop working on a Erzats Model A for our local museum after I broke my back in Dec. The major thing different is it has a little bit strange looking Chevy 216 in it. I plan to start puttering around with it soon. I know it's a Chevy engine was there a different design in pre-30"s ? Doc.


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